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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Sweden claims to have reduced human trafficking through the Nordic model. Human trafficking is a crime in Scotland. The National Crime Agency is responsible for reducing it and, to my knowledge it has a decent record. I am therefore saying that surely we are already reducing human trafficking in Scotland through what we are doing. I am asking about the way that the law is currently framed.
It is just a thought, because that is one of the claims that is made about the Nordic model, and I am wondering about the role of the National Crime Agency. Is there a suggestion that there is a barrier to tackling human trafficking?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
She did say that one reason why she has concerns is because the sale of sex has moved online. She said that specifically. You may want to have a look at that.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
I understand that the SSI is about all the other notification requirements in relation to sex offenders. That is what we are dealing with here. Any information about that offender is vital, so that we know where they are, because that is the purpose of the register. Your answer to Liam Kerr’s question on people who already have a GRC certificate was helpful. That would be consistent with the 2003 act, which I know quite well—believe it or not, I scrutinised it at the time and actually remember it.
I have a similar question. Even if someone is not going through the process of applying for a GRC, there is the requirement to notify if there has been a change of passport. Would the same apply? It might not. My understanding is that the reason why it applies is that, under the 2003 act, you change your gender for all or most purposes, so there would not be a requirement prior to conviction. However, the notification that you have changed your passport name is not covered by the same legislation, if you see what I mean.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
So, in answer to Liam Kerr’s question, if someone has a GRC prior to them being on the sex offenders register, there is not a requirement to notify, but if it is not a GRC but just a change of documentation, it depends on the assessment that is done at the time.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
I do remember the centralisation of those services, and I did not think for a minute that we would be sitting here now realising that that has taken £1 billion out of the budget.
In view of all that, is it time to change the funding model? A number of organisations have raised the question of multiyear funding, and we have been told that it was possible, before centralisation, to carry forward funding. I do not know whether that indicates a flaw in the creation of the new organisations. Given the pressures, is it not now time to consider that?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Yes, but the point of my question is that the previous services had flexibility. I understand your point about certainty, but those services had flexibility before the creation of the new organisations. I do not understand why you would not be interested in building that flexibility back into the funding model, notwithstanding the fact that some of that is not in your control—although some of it is.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
What about carrying reserves forward? That was allowed before, was it not?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Looking back, was that an error?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Good morning, cabinet secretary. I confess that I have not previously heard such stark warnings as I have done in the evidence that we have recently heard from the various justice organisations. You will have heard the chief constable say that she will have to reduce police numbers; the Fire and Rescue Service say that it will have to reduce firefighter numbers; and the SCTS say that there will be further court delays if it does not get what it asked for. Alarmingly, the chief executive of the Scottish Prison Service, Teresa Medhurst, said that if she does not get what she has asked for, she
“will not have enough money to run the organisation”.—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 19 November 2025; c 30.]
You must be concerned about the real crisis that will happen in the justice system if the Government falls short of the asks of those organisations.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Pauline McNeill
Liam Kerr has already alluded to this, and we have heard it many times. You have said that the police budget has increased since 2016, but the police will also tell us—and it is recorded fact—that £1 billion was taken, or saved, if you like, from the creation of Police Scotland. Notwithstanding what you have told the committee about other ways to reform through digitisation and getting our police officers on the front line, there is not much more scope for savings. Do you acknowledge the figure that the chief constable has given us? She said that we have lost 900 police officers since the creation of Police Scotland. I wondered why that was.
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