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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 December 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Sentencing Bill

Meeting date: 18 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

As members have heard, the UK Government introduced its bill on 2 September, and the bill will make changes to the sentencing framework and the management of offenders in England and Wales. Most of that bill applies to England and Wales, but, sometimes, when Westminster deals with criminal law matters, that means that something has to be done in this Parliament, too. As the cabinet secretary has said, Scotland cannot be less stringent on matters of national security and counterterrorism.

I have written a speech, but its contents have been covered pretty much word for word by the cabinet secretary. I do not think that there is any point in repeating those words, because the issue is quite clear.

It is unusual for a committee to deal with a legislative consent memorandum and for the Parliament be asked to vote on the motion the very next day, but the committee was pretty satisfied that there is no controversy in relation to the LCM. As members have heard, the essence of it is that long-term and short-term prisoners will be treated the same, as far as national security is concerned, and they will be released two thirds of the way into their sentence.

Scottish Labour will vote in favour of the motion this evening, and there is nothing more to add.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

And then it is decided under MAPPA?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Are you saying that that serves the same purpose as a register? I know that there are other problems with a register, but would putting those offenders on a domestic abuse register fulfil the same purpose?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

No.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

At what point is that done? In a high-level domestic abuse offence, the person will have served a sentence. Does the process start on their release?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

When an offender who has committed a serious domestic abuse offence is released, who handles the monitoring arrangements for them while they are out? Is that done under MAPPA?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

I think that people are interested in the idea of having a register, although we can see its faults, because there would be concrete legal requirements for an offender to say that they are, for example, going on holiday or moving house. It seems straightforward that notification requirements might add something if there is currently a much shorter register of only the most serious offenders. Does MAPPA replicate that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

No, my question is more general than that—I will rephrase it. When domestic abuse offenders who have been tried in a solemn case—so we are talking about serious offenders—but who are not covered by MAPPA are on release from prison, victims worry about their safety. I have a few such cases at the moment, and in fact we all have. Having notification requirements involving the police that are like the requirements for people on the sex offenders register might give victims some peace of mind, because those would be more serious monitoring requirements. I know that there would be lots of problems with a register, but I am just posing that question. Is there perhaps a gap?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Good morning. As Sharon Dowey said, risk is my area of interest. We have heard quite a lot about the long register in the bill, so I understand all those points. What Sharon Dowey is getting at is whether we could explore a shorter list of the most serious domestic abuse offences—you would have to assume that sentencing reflects the level of seriousness. That is what I want to explore.

I think that I know what you will say about this, but let me just develop the point first. I am trying to understand who is covered by MAPPA and the differences between MAPPA and a register. I do not know whether Graham Robertson wants to come in, because he has already responded on this issue, but I think that it is important for the committee to understand who MAPPA covers. I am not asking about those who have committed a sexual offence but about those who have committed a domestic abuse offence. I think that it would be helpful to understand that. I know that you cannot give us the numbers.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Pauline McNeill

Who identifies, and decides, whether a domestic abuse offender—not a sexual offender—will be covered by MAPPA?