Skip to main content
Loading…

Chamber and committees

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Filter your results Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 1524 contributions

|

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

This has been fascinating and informative, so I very much appreciate your joining us.

I will start at the macro level. I am interested in what you are saying about decisions that Governments can make that can make things happen. We are expecting the UK Government response to the Skidmore report, there is that point about the delivery plan, and we are hoping in Scotland for a decision on the Acorn project for track 2, because that shifts the dial considerably for Grangemouth, which is the focus of this inquiry.

What are the types of policy decisions that are needed to unlock things? Even in relation to heating buildings, which we have been discussing, the UK Government’s decision on gas boilers is not due until 2026—that is a decision that could be brought forward. I am interested in the types of decisions that would help us to move.

It is about investment in advance of need. I am also deputy convener of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee and we are currently looking at the electricity infrastructure and whether it is an enabler or an inhibitor. The Office of Gas and Electricity Markets does not have a net zero policy focus. If it did, it might help some of that investment, and some of that investment in the grid helps us shift on hydrogen, and hydrogen is a big focus for what we are looking at for Grangemouth. It would help us if you illustrated the types of Government decisions that you are talking about that can help move things. Clearly, some of them are in reserved areas, but some are devolved. We are about to get a circular economy bill, so that might help. It would be helpful if you could illustrate the types of decisions that you mean.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

It is back to the future, potentially, in a place-based way—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

That is a very good overview of the bigger aspects that need to be dealt with. I am very taken by your agreement that place-based approaches can really work. How we translate that into the just transition plan for Grangemouth is going to be very interesting. It is convening power, and it is interesting that the ABI is a convener because everybody needs house insurance. Everyone needs a mortgage, but does a mortgage stay with a person or the building?

Grangemouth is a fascinating place to be a first mover when it comes to how you do everything, as in heat and transport. It has the biggest industrial site in Scotland. Most of the people who work at the site live within 10 miles, we have been told. There is something very geographical about that, and most of the housing—I defer to the constituency MSP on this—is post-1950s. How do you convene that and do it on a place base and entrust the private sector to do it—not just social housing, which would be easier to do?

Is doing things geographically as a package in that way investable? Alexander Dennis, the bus company that does hydrogen, is there so an interesting aspect is using industry as an anchor, as there is a major anchor industrial site. It may not be beyond the realms of possibility that we will get blue hydrogen and then green hydrogen. Hydrogen may not be for housing everywhere, but it might be in district heating in that area because of Acorn and so on. How ambitious is that? Is it realistic to look to use the convening power of local government or whoever to do something on that, or is that too small? Is Grangemouth too small? It has a major industrial site. Could that work together?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Mark, is there anything that you wanted to tell us that you have not been able to?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Aileen McLeod?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I am very conscious of the tight timescale for this, but I also want to emphasise the importance of regulation of chemical substances and the importance of the chemical industry to Scotland. This is an area of key importance. It would be beneficial to hear from the minister, and perhaps, if we have time, to write to the relevant regulatory bodies in Scotland to get their perspective on this. It looks as if this is an essential step, but it would be worth drilling down to the extent that we can during the time that we have.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

What are the impacts of current delays and deferrals, and of inflation, on your short-term business plans?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Do we have time to hear from Mark Hull?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I direct these questions to Scott Mathieson and Aileen McLeod. Do the current business plans from SSEN and SPEN, in relation to both transmission and distribution, allow for sufficient investment in the networks to realise what is in the draft energy strategy from the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

The committee can address those issues with Ofgem, when we see it. I am conscious that a number of the issues are reserved, so I will focus now on the Scottish Government and come to Mark Hull. What more could the Scottish Government do to support network investment and readiness?