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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
The answer is “if”. It is important because, when you get that momentum—or pipeline, which I think you referred to it as—people develop expertise. We have had a change whereby it is now regional transport partnerships that take a big part of the responsibility for many projects, although individual councils can apply as well. It is important to keep the experience and expertise; that provides value for money in and of itself. There is something around keeping the pipeline and momentum, which is what we want to do.
Do we want to make multiyear commitments? Yes, that would be desirable. However, we are not currently able to do that. Instead, we have yearly budgets that we have to report to the Parliament on.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
I will make two points on that. One is that the bus infrastructure fund will enable work to help with easing congestion. On a recent visit to Dundee, it was quite clear to me what they could do should they get approval for funding. I had a good conversation with McGill’s Buses as well on what that would mean for reliability.
Secondly, in relation to the M8, I am recused from talking about that issue, because I have a constituency interest—the M8 and the M9 go through my constituency. I will maybe ask my officials.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
People in Whitburn travel to Glasgow.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
That research informs our debate, but it is not Government policy. In looking at how we deal with national resourcing for transport, particularly road transport by car, a big issue is how the reserved powers of the UK Government are deployed in relation to fuel duty replacements. It is not just the UK that has to deal with that. Every country will have to identify how it moves from gathering revenue from individuals using carbon travel and what will enable investment in any new system or in any alternatives, such as public transport—which is a very effective measure—in order to reduce car use.
I raised the issue with the then Secretary of State for Transport and the previous ministers for transport in the UK Government, as well as with the current minister, the Minister for Future of Roads. I will certainly raise it with Heidi Alexander, the new Secretary of State for Transport, when I get a chance to meet her.
A UK Parliament committee has identified a big issue. The UK is about to lose £35 billion in fuel duty as sales of carbon cars decrease. This committee will also be involved in the vehicle emissions trading schemes and the zero emission vehicle mandate to reduce the sale of carbon cars and to phase them out.
My strong view is that we should not just leave revenue-raising replacement measures to the Treasury and the issue of how to replace £35 billion of funding for services to the UK Government. I am concerned that that is what will happen. I am constantly being told the issue is being referred to the Treasury. We should probably be looking at it more from how that helps to support the climate change agenda and what that means for road usage more generally.
The issue needs to be dealt with on a UK-wide basis. Last week, I had a very good meeting with Ken Skates, the Cabinet Secretary for Transport and North Wales. At some point, I hope to get that on the agenda with the other ministers in the UK. The decisions will have to be made, so why not do it in a sensible way and try to take a four-nations approach? Of course, the levers in relation to and the decision making on what the replacement for fuel duty should be lie with the UK Government, but we have an interest in the matter and we should keep actively involved in it.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
In terms of the scoping of that, I am happy to take advice from the committee. There is a range of things that can be looked at. That can best be done on a four-nations basis. I am not going to prejudice those discussions by speculating.
Every country in the world will have to look at the issue, so how can it best be done? We need to look at not only a budget replacement mechanism. We also need to look at how you replace fuel duty in a way that helps to invest in public transport or whatever.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
It has been an open procurement. Whatever happens, there will be reduced emissions—that is a priority for us. However, as said, and as I relayed to the committee when we announced the procurement—obviously, ScotRail made the formal statement—it has been an open procurement, and we will have to identify what comes back from that.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
The SSI is also constrained by the current legislation.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
We need to determine what the market can deliver, and then identify how to get best value.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
Let us see what the market comes back with.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 January 2025
Fiona Hyslop
If there is a requirement for it, it will be able to be funded, but we have reported to the committee when that lease—that rent—will end. If that is not the case, I will come back to the committee on it.