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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

That would be helpful. We are constrained in the amount that the Scottish Government can borrow, but there might be possibilities if we are creative about how we look at things with regard to local authorities.

In relation to the local authority role, I have a question for Emma Harvey. My colleague will go into some of the skills that are required, but we need something almost like a regulatory standard to achieve investability. There is a difference between a project and the process. What policies and mechanisms can be put in place so that local authorities can achieve that standardisation to help scale up the level of investment opportunities for them?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

On the testing, we have had a great deal of focus on a place-based solution to net zero and it was interesting that you were talking about the role of local authorities not just on the demand and supply side but on the enabling side. On the private sector side—home ownership, for example, and green mortgages—local authorities may not see that they have a key role in helping to promote that in a place-based, street-by-street process. Is that something that you mean when you talk about local authorities enabling and leading on the information sharing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

John Cunningham can perhaps give us a view from the Western Isles on his experience of leveraging private finance into nature-based solutions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you very much. I will pass back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you. I think that the committee is looking forward to visiting Linlithgow, my home town, which did a community bond on solar panels, although it was on a very small scale.

I will move on to Ben Howarth. Investors are looking at rewards. I suppose that that is about the mechanisms and the financial packages and products that would be helpful to bridge the gap between clear demand for net zero investment and supply of that investment.

You also talked about standardisation, which gives some comfort to investors. What would they be looking for, exactly? You talked about low-level long-term rewards and returns to your investors. What shape would that take and what policies and mechanisms need to be put in place at local authority or Scottish Government level to enable those products to be developed? Are there existing products that you would like to use for investment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I will change tack slightly. I was struck by what Julie Waldron said about needing a nature-based equivalent of Sustrans or heritage conservation areas. City deals are another mechanism that is bringing together public and private finance in strategic planning. Some city deals have been established for some time. Are the city deals adequately aligned with nature restoration goals and use of natural infrastructure to achieve net zero, or do we need to look again at some of the city deals through a net zero lens?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

There is a particular issue with how we incentivise funding for town centre housing development. The city centre task force’s report made nine specific proposals for housing in city centres. Those were far more detailed than the proposals in the TCAP2. The housing aspects of the Scottish Government’s town centre report seemed to be light compared to those in the city centre task force’s report.

Your responsibilities relate to planning, public finance and community wealth. The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government is the lead on housing. However, there does not seem to be a strong a read-across for incentivising town centre housing development from your plans to the city centre plans. Is there anything that we can do to ensure the financial incentives that will be absolutely necessary to establish town centre housing development? Can you try to ensure that there is a more joined-up approach so that you mobilise the housing investment that is clearly available for city centres, which you also need to get into town centre development?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I will cover property development. It is clear that absentee landlords are a real problem in the development of town centres. Many of them live internationally or are based overseas, if they can be found. Recovery and engagement are very difficult. The status quo is not working in tackling the problem of absentee landlords. What is the Government doing and what can it do to improve that situation so that we can develop properties that are owned by absentee landlords?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

NPF4 and the planning framework are critical for a variety of reasons, but they do not come with an enormous funding pot, as far as I am aware. How can we mobilise the resources that are available in the housing budget for town centre living? We know that it is more costly to build in town centres than it is to build on greenfield sites, so we will have to find some kind of incentives.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Exactly.