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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Tim Eagle
I will come to the point on “have regard to” in a second, because I love a bit of legal terminology.
First, I go back to Emma Harper’s point about economic opportunities in national parks, which is critical. I want to double check that I have this right. Section 1 of the 2000 act sets out four principal national park aims and, in the bill, you slightly tinker with those aims but not very much. However, section 5(2)(1) of the bill amends the 2000 act by introducing a new section 1(2), which adds six new aims that are around issues such as the natural environment, biodiversity, climate and access. Those aims expand upon the four main national park aims, but none of them refers to the economy or economic development in a national park.
That concerns me slightly, because lots of businesses, not just farmers, operate in the parks. Why not add another aim that is about enhancing and protecting the sustainable economic development of those areas?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Tim Eagle
I think that my question has just been answered. I was going to ask what response you have had from the Scottish Government and what your big summary message to us is. You have just said that it is not just the Scottish Government but all of us as MSPs, in representing our constituents, who have a responsibility to be pushing and questioning and constantly asking. Unless there is anything else that you want to add, I think that you just summarised the situation.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Tim Eagle
It is an interesting point that we hide smaller groups because of a bigger subset. Perhaps I made the wrong assumption, but I thought that we would factor that into such research. However, your evidence is that we do not. Your research allowed smaller groups to have a voice, which otherwise they might not have had. It might not even be in Inverness. Elgin or Dingwall, for example, have slightly larger populations that are significantly bigger than west coast villages with a handful of people.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Tim Eagle
Good morning. It has been a really interesting discussion. I have to admit that I have just been looking up your briefing papers on human rights budgeting to try to get it into my head. I might take you up on the offer to meet you separately to go through some of that, because I am struggling a wee bit to understand how human rights come into the national performance framework and national outcomes and then into delivery within the financial envelope that we have. I hope that, one day, I will get my head around it.
My question is about the Scottish household survey. Interestingly, there was broad satisfaction across Scotland, in rural and urban areas, with services such as schools and health, although the satisfaction rates for public transport in rural areas were suggested to be worse.
How did you factor other surveys, such as the Scottish household survey, into your research? Do you have any comments on the comparison between your work and the household survey?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Tim Eagle
In fairness, I think that Rhoda Grant said at the very beginning of her question that none of us doubts the outcome that we are trying to get—which is incentivising business, helping us to be more sustainable and so on—and that it is just about how it works in practice and making sure that it becomes not a burden to the agriculture industry but, rather, a positive thing. It is important to monitor that all the way through.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Tim Eagle
That is because it is messy.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Tim Eagle
Perhaps I have not explained myself well. My point is about the rural support plan, not about the detail. I thought that the idea behind the rural support plan was that it would underpin all the new grant schemes and that it would be a document that showed the Scottish Government’s outcomes so that farmers could apply for support that fits the outcomes that you are looking for. Without that document, it feels as if we cannot do that, because your route map does not give that level of detail.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Tim Eagle
I—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Tim Eagle
I do not want to come off as negative this morning, minister—I agree with you on some of this stuff, but I want to press you on the clarity and detail of the vision. The list of measures under tier 2 is expansive, and one of the arguments against the current greening model is that it is restrictive. In my head, I have the old land managers options scheme, whereby people could pick and choose what worked for them, exactly as you said. Do you have an idea of how those measures will be delivered in the new model?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Tim Eagle
I have a quick question on the cost of that work. Minister, what do you estimate the potential cost of any changes to the IT system will be? For clarity, is that money already in the budget? Do you know where the money would come from for any changes?