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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

The issue here is about overreaching. It is not about the impacts of section 8 not being adhered to. If a new owner were to come in and say, “I agree with all of that,” in order for the land sale to proceed, because the land price could be affected, should the bill provide that NatureScot could de-escalate the requirement to an agreement, rather than the land having to be sold with a control scheme in place? Does that make sense?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have one more quick question. Do you think it would be better to change “have regard to” in the bill to “comply with” because that might give certainty to stakeholders? Also, as the convener mentioned, do you think that it would have been better if a draft code had been published along with the bill, because the framework nature of the bill means that we do not really know what we are talking about here?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Finally, I presume that, in order to come to those figures, you have already done some detailed background work. Is that something that you can release? Do you have a set of draft criteria that could be released, so that we can understand how you came to the figures in the financial memorandum?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

How did you come to that, out of interest? It mentions three to five deer management plans, nine voluntary control agreements and one to two control schemes. How did you come to those figures?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I should have said that criteria are also important in that code. Are you aware of the financial memorandum and that it lays out how many times you expect to use the new powers under nature restoration?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Good morning. This is an interesting discussion. Part of the problem with framework bills is that they are not defined. The stakeholders do not know what is going on. I have a few questions about the code of practice, because I think that it will be instrumental in helping everyone to understand what the bill will do. Section 12 of the bill changes when NatureScot can review compliance with and the effectiveness of the code of practice for deer management. How will you decide when is an appropriate time to carry out a review?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Then you will have a look.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I appreciate that you only just got that letter, but once you have had the chance to review it, is it right that your position might change? You might decide to come back and say, “Actually, we’re fully supportive of this bill.”

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Thank you very much for that.

My final question is about the Government’s position. In the review that you carried out of the Animals and Wildlife (Penalties, Protections and Powers) (Scotland) Act 2020, you stated that the Scottish Government had no plans to introduce legislation for a specific offence of pet theft and that “there is no consensus” on whether such an offence was required. In your letter on the bill, you stated that you would be

“taking a neutral position on the Bill.”

Reflecting on what we have spoken about today and your own research, could you advise the committee whether there are any circumstances under which you could support the bill?

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