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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Employment Rights Bill

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Lorna Slater

I guess that it is about the implementation and understanding. As you say, we use terms such as “circular economy”, but I am not sure that the average person knows what that means or understands how to be nature positive and what that means for businesses. I am interested in understanding how much it is part of the relationship with businesses to make sure that they understand the concepts that Government talks about and what they mean for businesses on the ground.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Lorna Slater

My other question is somewhat related to that. We have also taken evidence from representatives of alternative business models such as co-operative social enterprises and other democratic business models, and they felt that they were not part of the new deal for business. They have had increased engagement recently because of the inclusive and democratic business models report, which they are very grateful for. However, the committee is interested in how we mainstream them. How do we make sure that those alternative business models are included in the new deal for business and also, going forward, in the thinking of Scottish Enterprise and Business Gateway so that we mainstream them, given how important they are to the wellbeing economy?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Lorna Slater

I appreciate that, looking forward, there will be an opportunity to incorporate and help to mainstream those businesses.

I want to pick up on a point that you made, Dr Malik. There seems to be an idea in many people’s minds that moving to net zero is costly and challenging. You mentioned that as well. However, the circular economy is about helping with businesses’ bottom lines by reducing the waste of energy and of materials. Businesses might make the choice to fly less to conferences, for example, which will save them money. Is any work being done with businesses on how they can improve and make more money while reducing their waste and working on their route to net zero? If people think that it will always cost them more money when, in fact, doing less will be the answer in many cases, that narrative will be a barrier.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Lorna Slater

In previous evidence sessions, we heard from representatives of business and so on that they feel that they have a good understanding of the duties of business as regards reaching net zero, the wellbeing economy, the circular economy and the new kid on the block: being nature positive. However, I am not sure that that is what I have been hearing on the ground. I would love to hear from you guys how well you think Scottish businesses understand their duties in all those spaces, because that is quite a lot for them to take on.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

We have been speaking about how effective parliamentary committees are in scrutinising SPCB supported bodies, but those bodies do some really useful and valuable work, and we are not entirely confident that that work is always fed in effectively to the Parliament, then used. We are looking at how to make that system more effective.

Auditor General, I understand from Richard Leonard that you come into the Parliament weekly to give an update on your work and how things are going, but other supported bodies come to the Parliament only annually, and, when they do, they discuss their annual review rather than any specific and potentially crucial work that they are doing.

How did it come to be that you report weekly whereas the other bodies do so annually? Is that because of legislation, or is it just based on a code of practice? Is your approach an effective way of feeding in? Should other bodies be doing something similar? Should that approach be mandated? I am interested in your thoughts on that.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you. The committee’s role is to look at the potential structures, as opposed to any particular commissioner’s merits, because they will be decided on by the Parliament.

We have discussed how effective committees are in scrutinising SPCB supported bodies—how much time and bandwidth they have to spend with those bodies—but we have mentioned that several SPCB supported bodies do excellent work on really important things that is not fed into the Parliament at all. I am not even sure that we are using the bodies that we have effectively, in either direction. Do you have any thoughts about that?

Parliamentary committees are already having trouble scrutinising the SPCB supported bodies that we have. If there were more bodies, the committees would be spread even thinner. Equally, are you concerned that SPCB supported bodies are not having their fantastic work fed back into the Parliament? Would not the creation of more commissioners just make the level of scrutiny worse and reduce effectiveness?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

Do Sarah Boyack or Jeremy Balfour have any comments?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Lorna Slater

I want to clarify something. I understood from one of the committee’s evidence sessions that one of the offices gets audited twice a year, but you are saying that that is not accurate and that it is audited only once a year.