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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
You are, so if you do not mind, can you please move on from that, for now?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
Thank you for making that point, which we will look into again.
I thank everybody for their evidence. I suspend the meeting for 15 minutes to allow our witnesses to leave and our second panel of witnesses to come in.
10:37 Meeting suspended.Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
I welcome our second panel. Dr Lynne Binnie is chair of the ASN network at the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland—which, for people who are tuning in, we will probably abbreviate to ADES throughout the meeting; Antony Clark is executive director of performance audit and best value at Audit Scotland; Nicola Dickie is director of people policy at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Kerry Drinnan is education service manager for additional support needs inclusion at Falkirk Council; and Vivienne Sutherland is the principal psychologist at Fife Council’s educational psychology service. Welcome, and thank you for giving up your time and coming along this morning and for the written submissions that you provided ahead of the meeting, which have been very helpful.
We move directly to questions from members.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
May I bring in Bill Kidd before you move on to your next question?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
For the benefit of those listening, I note that SEF and PEF are, respectively, strategic equity funds and pupil equity funds. We are in a world of jargon, so I am just making that clear.
Ruth Maguire will ask the next questions.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
Would Vivienne Sutherland or Kerry Drinnan like to comment on adaptations to existing buildings in their local authority areas? You do not need to comment if you do not wish to say anything.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
Please do.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
That is helpful. I will bring in Lynne Binnie and then Kerry Drinnan.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
That has been helpful. Thank you.
I am going to change tack a bit. One of the impacts of the pandemic was on attendance. Education Scotland has published a deep dive into issues around attendance, and one of the groups that were reported as being most vulnerable to low attendance was pupils with additional support needs. What are local authorities doing to support children and young people who continue to be anxious about attending school? What are the challenges of developing teaching and learning in a curriculum that is flexible to meet the needs of all learners?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 13 March 2024
Sue Webber
Thank you. We will move to questions from Ross Greer.