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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Sue Webber

There will be a division.

For

Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP)

Abstentions

Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con)

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Sue Webber

The result of the division is: For 6, Against 0, Abstentions 3.

Amendment 112 agreed to.

Section 25, as amended, agreed to.

After section 25

Amendment 113 moved—[Natalie Don]—and agreed to.

Amendments 215 to 217 not moved.

Amendments 162 and 163 not moved.

Sections 26 and 27 agreed to.

After section 27

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

The result of the division is: For 9, Against 0, Abstentions 1.

Amendment 65 agreed to.

Amendment 66 moved—[Natalie Don].

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 6, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 197 disagreed to.

Amendment 198 moved—[Martin Whitfield].

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. The first and only item on our agenda is day 2 of consideration of the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill at stage 2.

Last week, the committee considered amendments and agreed up to and including section 11 of the bill. We will therefore begin our consideration from section 12 of the bill.

I welcome the Minister for Children, Young People and Keeping the Promise and her supporting officials to the meeting. I note that the officials who are seated at the table are here to support the minister but are not able to speak in the debates on amendments. Members should therefore direct their comments or questions for the Scottish Government to the minister.

Before we begin, I will explain, for everyone who is watching, the procedure that we will follow. The amendments that have been lodged to the bill have been grouped together, and there will be one debate on each group of amendments. I will call the member who lodged the first amendment in each group to speak to and move that amendment and to speak to all the other amendments in the group. I will then call any other members who have lodged amendments in that group. Members who have not lodged amendments in the group but who wish to speak should catch my attention. If Ms Don has not already spoken on the group, I will then invite her to contribute to the debate. The debate on the group will be concluded by my inviting the member who moved the first amendment in the group to wind up.

Following debate on each group, I will check whether the member who moved the first amendment in the group wishes to press it to a vote or to withdraw it. If they wish to press ahead, I will put the question on that amendment. If a member wishes to withdraw their amendment after it has been moved, they must seek the agreement of other members to do so. If any member present objects, the committee immediately moves to a vote on the amendment.

If any member does not want to move their amendment when called, they should say, “Not moved.” Please note that any other member present may move such an amendment. If no one moves the amendment, I will immediately call the next amendment on the marshalled list.

I remind everyone that only committee members are allowed to vote. Voting in any division is by show of hands. It is important that members keep their hands clearly raised until the clerk has recorded the vote.

The committee is required to indicate formally that it has considered and agreed each section of the bill, so I will put a question on each section at the appropriate point.

Now that we have covered the housekeeping matters, we can restart the substantive business.

Section 12—Restriction on report of suspected offences involving children

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

Group 13 is on reporting restrictions, powers and the public interest test. Amendment 21, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 191, 30 to 40, 42, 137, 138, 44, 45, 51, 54, 55, 60 to 62, 147, 65 to 67, 148, 192, 149, 150, 68 to 79, 81, 82, and 151. I remind members of the pre-emptions in the group.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

Mr Whitfield, you are speaking next to this group of amendments, so perhaps you can make your comments then. I am trying to keep a bit of pace going.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you, minister. There is, indeed, a lot in this grouping. I call Martin Whitfield to speak to amendment 191 and the other amendments in the group.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

Minister, perhaps you can address those points when you are winding up.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Sue Webber

The question is, that amendment 21 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.