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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

I am sorry, Ben, but I am looking at the time and other people want to come in on another theme. If you can, make your questions more concise, please.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

No, we are still on that theme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

Deborah Best is keen to come in, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

I do not know whether this panel has particular expertise on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

The first item on our agenda is the second formal evidence session on our additional support for learning inquiry, which will consider how the Education (Additional Support for Learning) (Scotland) Act 2004 has been implemented and how it is working in practice 20 years on—wow!

We will focus on three themes throughout the inquiry: the implementation of the presumption of mainstreaming; the impact of Covid-19 on additional support for learning; and the use of remedies as set out in the act. Today, we will focus mainly but not specifically on the second theme—we will probably stray into other areas.

I welcome our witnesses. Suzi Martin is the external affairs manager for the National Autistic Society Scotland; Glenn Carter is the head of the Scotland office of the Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists; Dinah Aitken is the director of development and external affairs at the Salvesen Mindroom Centre; and Irene Stove is a deputy headteacher and committee member of the Scottish Guidance Association. I welcome all of you and I thank you for the written submissions that you provided ahead of the meeting, which have been extremely helpful.

We will move straight to questions. I have taken convener’s privilege this morning and I have the first question, which is a bit of a scene setter. It focuses on Covid-19 and the impact that it has had on our young people. What are the main impacts that the pandemic has had on pupils with additional support needs, children, young people and their parents? To what degree have those impacts been mitigated by the support that schools and local authorities have put in place since then? Who would like to go first? That is a big scene setter.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you. I will go to Michelle Thomson for some questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

In your written evidence, you speak about how, when a young person goes to a facility, they have a social network there. Therefore, the service is beneficial for them as well as for their families.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

I want to ask a more generic question. The committee has heard about what happened during Covid. Suzi Martin, I think you said that some online learning opportunities were far better suited to some young people with additional support needs. I want to better understand the challenges in developing more flexible school education services during Covid and the challenges in keeping those services going now.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

You spoke about parental involvement in young people’s learning but, obviously, in some families, the parental engagement was not as positive, shall we say, which perhaps had an even more detrimental effect on the young person.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Sue Webber

Ross Greer has a question on this theme.