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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

You have spoken about where funding for Gaelic provision may or may not be. Are you hoping to consolidate that and have a bigger-picture view of the total spend on Gaelic and how it all comes together?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

Deputy First Minister, you spoke a bit earlier about issues with capacity, but it is not always about the buildings and the space in the classrooms. How will the Government monitor where the availability of Gaelic-speaking staff prevents public bodies from developing their Gaelic provision? As we have heard, that goes from early learning all the way through to subject choices in secondary education. How are you looking to monitor that and to support development?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

I do not want to go back, but I still want to ask a question about the letter that you sent in response to the Finance and Public Administration Committee on the shifting and repurposing of funds. In that, you refer to

“a wider, dynamic approach which takes into account local prioritisation and developing provision, current statutory expectations and resulting activity and new provision resulting from the Scottish Languages Bill.”

I thought that that was quite some sentence. Forgive me, but I was not quite certain what that was trying to tease out and clarify. It would be helpful if you could talk to me a bit more about that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

I will bring Liam Kerr back in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

You spoke earlier about the bill coming to the education committee, but the bill is about much more than education. That is what I am picking through.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

The witnesses that we had from the Scots Language Centre said that they would seek more funding but that they did not want it to be on the basis of that money coming from the Gaelic provision. They did not want to rob Peter to pay Paul.

For Gaelic, there is the designation of areas of linguistic significance for different communities and for geographical communities—such as South Uist—and perhaps there can be a community of interest in larger cities, so why is there not similar provision for Scots language in the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

Deputy First Minister, we have spoken about the number of public bodies that have Gaelic language plans, but there are far more than 57 public bodies across Scotland that will be expected to have a Gaelic language plan. Surely that is a resource need and a pressure on those organisations that has not been considered.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

I will bring in Liam Kerr on that thread.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

You said that the bill has a focused aim, but many have come to the committee and told us that it is largely symbolic. What is your response to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Sue Webber

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. We have apologies from Stephanie Callaghan.

Agenda item 1 is our final oral evidence session on the Scottish Languages Bill at stage 1. I welcome Kate Forbes, Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic; and, from the Scottish Government, Claire Cullen, head of Gaelic and Scots; Douglas Ansdell, team leader, Gaelic and Scots; Nico McKenzie-Juetten, lawyer, school education division, legal directorate; and Ninian Christie, lawyer, economy and social protection division, legal directorate. We will begin with a short opening statement from the Deputy First Minister.