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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 December 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

I apologise for that language.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

You will not be forcing them, kicking and screaming.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

Sticking with the Scottish Government element, section 13 of the bill proposes to repeal section 52 of FOISA, which is sometimes colloquially referred to as the First Minister’s veto power. Many of those who were consulted view the veto power as unnecessary and contrary to the principle of openness that underpins freedom of information.

What evidence or examples of how late compliance with that decision—Oh, goodness! I am getting all mixed up. I do not need to ask you that—my apologies. My questions for the different sets of witnesses are split, and I am getting a bit confused.

Let us move on to failure to comply with notices. I do not need to ask you about the veto—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

Yes, you might want to comment on the First Minister’s veto being repealed. Do you think that is a good thing?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

Oh, it is a very live issue. Please carry on.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

It is not just about you, as an organisation, having that clout; it is about having the law to support that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

That will be good.

Section 13 of the bill proposes the repeal of section 52 of FOISA, which is sometimes referred to colloquially as the First Minister’s veto. I think that you oppose that. Most of the consultees who responded said that the veto power is unnecessary, and we heard that it has never been used and is contrary to the principles of openness that underpin FOISA. Why does the Scottish Government believe that it should be retained, even in a limited form? What risks would arise if the power was repealed?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

I understand that there might be some limits to how you can respond to this, but can you provide examples of situations in which the absence of the proposed power has hindered your ability to improve FOI practice or to conduct investigations effectively?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

That is good for the Official Report.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Sue Webber

It has never been used.