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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. We will move to questions from Ruth Maguire.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Welcome back. Our next item is consideration of a piece of subordinate legislation that is subject to the negative procedure. Do any members have any comments on the instrument?

Is the committee agreed that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Kate Wallace, I have a final question for you. It is a follow-up to something that we heard last week. Do you have any views on the idea of having a single point of contact for victims?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

The bill could result in children under 18 who have been accused or convicted of serious crimes entering secure care rather than a YOI. Does that cause any concern? Do you have any experience of dealing with children who have committed serious crimes? What challenges do you foresee in managing that? Those questions are for the secure care providers.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Graeme Dey has a supplementary question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Kate Wallace, do you want to respond to any of those points?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. We will move on to questions from Michael Marra.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Research has shown that care-experienced children are overrepresented in the criminal justice system in Scotland. I do not think it will be possible to do this briefly, but, if you can, please explain concisely why that is the case and what might be done to address that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the 11th meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Under our first agenda item, we will take evidence on the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill.

Two panels of witnesses are joining us today. I welcome our first panel: Alison Gough, director of the Good Shepherd Centre; Kevin Northcott, deputy chief executive officer of Rossie Young People’s Trust; Claire Lunday, headteacher at St Mary’s Kenmure Secure Care Centre; Gerald Michie, governor of HM Young Offenders Institution Polmont, the Scottish Prison Service; and Sue Brookes, interim director for strategy and stakeholder engagement at the Scottish Prison Service.

We have a lot of ground to cover, so we will move straight to members’ questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. That is very helpful and should help our members to direct questions to the witnesses with the right expertise.

Will you outline what assessments are made when children enter a YOI or secure care establishment and what services are available immediately to deal with any issues that the children might have? Gerald Michie, do you want to go first?

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