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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

I like the term “casual vacancies”—I am enjoying that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

We will come to questions on vacancies. Annabel Mullin, do you want to come in? I cannot remember what my original question was.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

As our evidence has shown, we are all aware that we have to accept that there is quite a difference in how we are elected as regional and constituency MSPs and, therefore, accept that how we progress in those circumstances will also be different.

The committee has received a lot of evidence that the cost of running the recall process for a regional MSP could be about £2.5 million. Is that cost justifiable, based on the additional accountability that the recall process is intended to deliver? What is the cost benefit analysis? You have already mentioned that there are seven other elected representatives for those individuals. I will come to you first, Juliet, because I have caught your eye.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

I think that it is for the recall process—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

Yes, it is for both.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

You said that there were a number of resignations before by-elections were triggered. Do you think that the process acts as a deterrent? You know what I mean when I say “deterrent”. It is almost a cost containment mechanism—the member knows that the game is up, to be blunt.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

Would the recall process that is proposed in the bill do a good job of balancing different considerations around the equal treatment of regional and constituency MSPs, considering how they are initially elected.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

Juliet, the previous panel mentioned that it could be seen as a stitch-up if the seat just went to the next person on the regional list. Those are their words and not mine. You spoke at the outset about transparency for politicians in general. What are your thoughts about that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

That is a warning for us, then.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Sue Webber

Is even considering taking the next person on the list perhaps a bit of a lazy way to find a solution? Lazy might not be the right word; it is the easiest way.