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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

That is moving into territory on which Mr Rennie is looking to ask questions, so I will go to him now. Perhaps you could respond to him in that context.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Okay. We will move on to questions from Ross Greer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

I am sorry to interrupt, but Mr Donnelly was interested in responding to the previous question as well. I am also looking at the time and I need to ask for more concise responses.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

We have heard a lot—from Claire Dobson, in particular—about the different ways in which young people are dealt with. Could you outline some of the inconsistencies that currently exist for 16 and 17-year-olds, depending on whether they go through the children’s hearings system or the criminal justice system? I understand that you cannot talk about specifics, but it would be helpful if you could be as specific as possible, within the restrictions on what you can say about such matters. I invite Claire Dobson to respond first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Claire, you spoke about a strategy for communication with communities, but what sort of culture change will be required in Police Scotland, given that officers are used to treating 16 and 17-year-olds as adults?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Alistair, would you like to add anything further?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you, Megan. Received.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. The first item on our agenda is evidence on the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill. We have two panels of witnesses joining us today. I welcome our first panel. Alistair Hogg is head of practice and policy at the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration; Kenny Donnelly is procurator fiscal for policy and engagement at the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service; and Superintendent Claire Dobson is from the partnerships, prevention and community wellbeing division of Police Scotland.

We have a lot of ground to cover today, so we will move straight to questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. We move to questions from Bob Doris.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Of course you can.