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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
Good morning, and welcome to the 19th meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.
The first item on our agenda is a round-table session on violence in schools. The committee is aware that a number of incidents of violent behaviour have taken place in schools across Scotland over the past year. We want to understand more about those incidents, so we have arranged this discussion so that we can hear from a range of voices. In particular, the committee is keen to understand how common incidents of violence in schools are, which factors contribute to such incidents taking place in our schools and what could be done to help students, parents and teachers.
I welcome our witnesses. In no particular order, we are joined by Anne Keenan, assistant secretary at the Educational Institute of Scotland; Mike Corbett, national official for Scotland at the NASUWT; Beau Johnston, member of the Scottish Youth Parliament; Carrie Lindsay, executive director of education and children’s services at Fife Council, who is representing the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland; Dr Colin Morrison, co-director of the Children’s Parliament; Nick Smiley, chair of the Association of Scottish Principal Educational Psychologists; Dr Joan Mowat, senior lecturer in the school of education at the University of Strathclyde; and Cheryl Burnett, chair of the National Parent Forum of Scotland. Thank you all for joining us.
We begin with a bit of housekeeping. Today’s session is a round-table discussion. It is intended to be more of a conversation than a question-and-answer session, which is what Government ministers who appear before the committee get. Members will pose questions to help to create a structure for our discussion, but if any witness wants to come in, they should please catch my eye or that of one of the clerks, who are sitting to my left, and I will do my best to bring them in.
I will start off by asking an opening question to set the scene. Does the panel think that we currently have a clear picture of the violence that is taking place in schools across Scotland? I invite Cheryl Burnett to answer first.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
Before I bring in Nick Smiley, Beau Johnston wants to clarify something.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
I think that it was the viewpoint of both Dr Morrison and Dr Mowat.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
As our conversation continues, I am sure that members will pick up on those issues. This part of the meeting will be more structured, as I try to get everyone involved. I come to Nick Smiley.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
I ask Beau Johnston to come in next.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
That is fine. We are meant to be fostering a discussion, so we will take that point and leave it there. Mike Corbett will be next, followed by Cheryl Burnett.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
I am hoping that we will get into those issues. I simply posed an opening question to get the discussion going and to get a sense of where people are.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
I am not sure that that is how we had framed today’s discussion. We are just trying to understand a bit more about what is going on. I will bring in Dr Mowat.
09:45Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
Would you like to kick off on that, Anne?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Sue Webber
Pam, let Carrie Lindsay respond.