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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

I thank all the witnesses for their time today. I know that some of the witnesses have to dash off to other commitments.

I suspend the meeting until 10:40 to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:31 Meeting suspended.  

10:46 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

I thank the witnesses for their responses so far. For the record, will you provide a brief overview of your respective roles in Polmont and in the secure care setting?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you very much.

We have had a robust discussion, this morning. Thank you for your time. We will have a short suspension to allow our witnesses to leave.

12:15 Meeting suspended.  

12:17 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

It was about inconsistencies that exist for 16 and 17-year-olds, depending on whether they go through the children’s hearings system or the criminal justice system.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

That is great. Thank you very much for that, and thanks for your time this morning. The public part of today’s meeting is now at an end. We will consider our final agenda item in private.

12:00 Meeting continued in private until 12:28.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

Ruth Maguire has some questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

We are a little bit ahead of time. However, you do not get in front of the committee often when we are discussing legislation that holds such importance for our young people, so I will give you a couple of minutes each to share with us something that you really want us to hear in relation to the bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

We have a very brief supplementary from Graeme Dey on an issue that was raised earlier.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

My recollection is that we heard something quite different from what you presented to the witnesses in your question today, Michael. However, we can look back at the evidence that we have been presented with previously.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Sue Webber

We will then be able to decide how we want to follow up on that line of questioning.

Mr Doris, do you want to comment on that?