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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

That plan will be published next year, so it will not help them right now. What are we doing to recruit and retain staff right now? We cannot afford to be bleeding social workers when the bill will require those individuals to carry out more quality work to support our young people.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Michelle Thomson is next. Thank you for your patience, Michelle.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

You say that it is not in the public domain. When can the committee expect to have sight of that document, given that it is a really important document and given the evidence that we heard last week about the lag that is required between commencement and sequencing of the legislation?

You referred to “a host of work”, and what you mentioned related to international recruitment. “A host of work” suggests that there are many threads of work under way. What else are you doing to tackle the issue?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you, minister. I will bring in Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Pam Duncan-Glancy has a supplementary question on the same theme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

I have a thread in my head that I have not quite formulated yet, but for the moment I will call Ruth Maguire.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Stephanie Callaghan has a supplementary question on this theme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Minister, I thank you for your commitment to keeping the Promise. However, the committee has heard that the reforms that are envisaged for the children’s hearings system, alongside other changes that are brought about by the Promise, will take time—most likely years—to fully implement. What challenges does that pose for the children’s hearings system now, given that it is already struggling to attract enough volunteers? The reforms are critical to the bill and to the children’s hearings system.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

What commitment can you give today to the committee and to the children and young people that improvements will continue to be made in the children’s hearings system in the interim?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Before we move on to questions from Michelle Thomson, I will quickly go back to the social work element. The bill is dependent on social work, and the questions about the future are key to that. An additional 215,931 hours of social work will be expected for the bill to be successful. I am not getting a sense of the gravitas or the size of that, and I am not hearing much confidence today that that will be possible. I am concerned. Is there any more reassurance that you can give us, minister?