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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you for that statement. We will move to members’ questions. I have the privilege of asking the first question.

You spoke about the legislative framework, barriers to learning and how things are not a quick fix. You are here very much to talk about the progress on the actions that you laid out. Has the additional support for learning project board considered whether any legislative change is required to support improvement with additional support needs?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

The committee has agreed to undertake an inquiry into additional support needs, and it is keen to identify where our work can add most value. To that end, we are seeking to understand the progress that has been made since Angela Morgan published her review of additional support for learning implementation in June 2020. The first item on our agenda is therefore a scoping session to help to inform our inquiry into additional support needs—or ASN, which is the acronym that we will use regularly throughout this session.

We will hear from members and the co-chairs of the additional support for learning project board, whose role is to support additional support for learning and inclusion policy, including through delivery of the additional support for learning—or ASL—action plan and associated workstreams. I will try not to use too many acronyms today, but we know that things can be like that.

I welcome our panel of witnesses: Laura Caven, chief officer, children and young people team and co-chair of the additional support for learning project board, Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, or COSLA; Laura Meikle, head of support and wellbeing unit and co-chair of the additional support for learning project board, Scottish Government; Fran Foreman, project board member and senior education officer, inclusion and ASN, and inclusion, wellbeing and equalities, Education Scotland; and Scott Mulholland, chair of the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland children and young people’s ASN network, project board member and assistant director of education, South Ayrshire Council. I thank you all for joining us.

I invite Laura Meikle to make an opening statement of up to five minutes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Sue Webber

It was an early start for all of us.

I say to Laura Caven, who is joining us online, that I can see her directly in front of me, so she can put up her hand if she wants to come in on anything. She can also mention that on BlueJeans, and the clerk will let me know.

We move to questions from Ruth Maguire.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Sue Webber

That would be helpful. In response to one of our questions, you said that there are now more than 300 educational psychologists. I want to contextualise that, given the evidence of the Association of Scottish Principal Educational Psychologists that we heard at our round-table session. It said that, in 2007, the number of children per educational psychologist was 85.8 but that, in 2022, it was 659.7 children. I ask you to consider that, and it might come up as you respond to questions from Stephen Kerr, to which we will now move.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you for those responses. We move to questions from Ruth Maguire.

09:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Sue Webber

Bob Doris wants to come in on that thread.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Sue Webber

I will bring in our deputy convener now.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Sue Webber

Okay, thank you. We will move on to—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Sue Webber

Can the minister comment on his opinion of the on-going boycott and how it might impact on the students who are sitting without confirmed results for their degrees?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Sue Webber

Have you spoken to any students about how they are feeling about the situation?