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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you, minister. I will bring in Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Pam Duncan-Glancy has a supplementary question on the same theme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

I have a thread in my head that I have not quite formulated yet, but for the moment I will call Ruth Maguire.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Stephanie Callaghan has a supplementary question on this theme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Minister, I thank you for your commitment to keeping the Promise. However, the committee has heard that the reforms that are envisaged for the children’s hearings system, alongside other changes that are brought about by the Promise, will take time—most likely years—to fully implement. What challenges does that pose for the children’s hearings system now, given that it is already struggling to attract enough volunteers? The reforms are critical to the bill and to the children’s hearings system.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

What commitment can you give today to the committee and to the children and young people that improvements will continue to be made in the children’s hearings system in the interim?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Before we move on to questions from Michelle Thomson, I will quickly go back to the social work element. The bill is dependent on social work, and the questions about the future are key to that. An additional 215,931 hours of social work will be expected for the bill to be successful. I am not getting a sense of the gravitas or the size of that, and I am not hearing much confidence today that that will be possible. I am concerned. Is there any more reassurance that you can give us, minister?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

I welcome you to the meeting and invite the minister to make an opening statement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Surely, you will get it right for those young people only if we have the 215,931 hours of social work capacity, the numbers of volunteers in the children’s hearing system, and a secure care service that is fit for purpose and designed around the outcome of the bill. I am concerned that everything is out of sequence—we will go back to that point. I am not getting the reassurance from you today that that is not the case. Change happens across society and in lots of organisations. It is in the gift of the Scottish Government to decide how and when all those elements of change take place.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 1 November 2023

Sue Webber

Ruth Maguire has a question about something that was said earlier.