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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

You have mentioned a lot of harm reduction services, but I am interested in recovery services.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you, convener. I thought that we were going to cover MAT standards first, but it is fine; perhaps I will get a chance to come in on that topic.

The Lord Advocate has provided evidence on the legalities of the drug consumption room that has been specified for Glasgow. Looking at the bigger picture, do you have any idea of how, logistically, it will work on the ground?

Kirsten Horsburgh is nodding the most fervently, so I will come to her first.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

Do you know what methods will be used to evaluate the service? A lot has been said about the consumption room being an opportunity to engage with people and get them into treatment, so I am curious to know what level of support and what other services will be available in the environment.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

I am not doing that.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

That has been helpful—thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

What do you mean by that?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

We have heard a lot today about accessing services. I think that one of the first comments was that lack of access to treatment is one of the key drivers of drug-related deaths; it might have been Wez Steele who said that. I have the MAT standards in front of me and each one starts with the words, “All people”, but clearly, not all people who require or wish access to the MAT standards are getting it. What more could be done to assist with that?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

My question was about how the service will be evaluated, although I also wonder what will happen if the result of the consultation is that none of the local businesses wants to have the service there. How will the success of the service and what has worked well be determined? What other services will be there, to which people can be signposted?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

That goes back to the agility that Kirsten Horsburgh spoke about earlier. Do you want to come in on that?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Sue Webber

Suzanne Gallagher from Scottish Families Affected by Alcohol and Drugs has commented that far too much time and effort is being spent on MAT standards 1 to 5 and that we are not really progressing to the others. Kirsten Horsburgh spoke at the beginning of the meeting about it being an emergency. We talk about that, but we do not get a sense of that on the ground. What are your views on that?