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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

It is good to know that some innovative thinking is going on. We look forward to seeing the results of that deep dive.

Pam Duncan-Glancy has what I hope will be a brief supplementary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the 24th meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. The first item on our agenda this morning is an evidence session on pre-budget scrutiny and the Scottish attainment challenge. I welcome Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills, who is joining us for the first time since her appointment. Congratulations, Jenny, and welcome.

The cabinet secretary is joined by a number of Scottish Government officials. Graeme Logan is director for learning; Alison Taylor is deputy director for improvement, attainment and wellbeing; Eleanor Passmore is a deputy director for early learning and childcare; Stephen Pathirana is director for lifelong learning and skills; and Elizabeth Sommerville is an attainment advisor. I thank you all for joining us.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement. Cabinet secretary, you have up to three minutes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

The second instrument is the Teachers’ Pensions (Remediable Service) (Scotland) Regulations 2023. It implements a remedy to the reforms of the Scottish teachers pension scheme under the Public Service Pensions and Judicial Offices Act 2022 and mitigates the impact of the roll-back of the legacy scheme to allow members to choose their personal benefits for the period between 1 April 2015 and 3 March 2022.

This instrument is also being considered under the negative procedure. It has been made with the consent of the Treasury.

No member wishes to comment. Is the committee agreed that it does not wish to make any recommendation in relation to the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

We will move back to Willie Rennie for the next questions. We are going round the houses today, as you can see.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

Helpfully, my deputy convener, Ruth Maguire, will address the issue of teacher numbers next.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I am sure that the committee shares the opinion that we are one of the most important committees in the Parliament.

We move to questions from members, starting with Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you for that. I call Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

That concludes the public part of our meeting. The committee will now move into private session to consider our final agenda item.

10:44 Meeting continued in private until 11:25.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. That was really helpful. We just needed to bottom out what was being said about attendance, so I appreciate that contribution.