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Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
I press amendment 67.
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
I will, Mr Greer, if you give me a second.
Amendment 71 would mean that, if my amendments are agreed to, the bill would allow for the immediate removal of MSPs in some circumstances, not just recall.
I give way to Mr Greer.
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
There have been instances in which members of the party of government have not turned up, which is the very reason that we introduced the bill.
I will take the intervention from Mr Hoy.
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
Thank you.
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
That was much clearer—thank you so much, Presiding Officer.
Once again, all the amendments in the group have been lodged by me. As I laid out at stage 2, we should be guided by the fact that the public expects far more from MSPs, and we should be held to higher standards than those we represent.
Being a member of this Parliament is a privilege, not an entitlement. I believe that, regardless of the severity of the crime, any MSP who is convicted of an offence should be removed automatically, bypassing the need for a recall petition or by-election. As we saw with the case of Margaret Ferrier—
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
Yes, I will give way to Ms Slater.
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
I will give way to the minister. I saw his name come up on the screen first.
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
I think that I would get some points. I would not get a community sentence or a prison sentence—
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
All the amendments in this group have been lodged by me and concern changes to the recall process for regional members. One of the key challenges of the bill is establishing a regional recall process that is fair, simple and cost effective. At stage 2, improvements were made to remove the two-step process for regional members, which was criticised in the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee’s stage 1 report. However, I still believe that the process as laid out does not represent value for the taxpayer.
The financial memorandum to the bill found that a regional poll could cost the taxpayer £1.3 million, compared to £0.3 million for a constituency petition and the subsequent by-election. In the United Kingdom Parliament, six recall petitions were triggered between 2018 and 2024. If, in the next session, we had a similar number of recall petitions and polls, we could be talking about millions of pounds being spent at a time when fiscal resources remain tight. I know that there is hope across the chamber that we will never have to use the legislation, but we must ground ourselves in the reality that we might have to use it. That is why I propose to abolish the recall process for regional MSPs and instead move to a system of automatic removal when the parliamentary sanction ground or criminal offence ground is triggered.
Amendment 42 is the substantive amendment in the group. It would establish a new process by which regional members would automatically be removed if they were sanctioned by Parliament for 10 sitting days or more, or if they were convicted of a criminal offence. Amendments 42A, 42B and 42C would change the wording of amendment 42 to remove reference to the criminal offence ground.
Meeting of the Parliament [Last updated 14:31]
Meeting date: 24 February 2026
Sue Webber
My amendments would still abolish the criminal conviction ground for recall.
Instead, members given a custodial or community sentence would be removed automatically. My amendment 34 would modify the Scotland Act 1998 to make provision for the automatic removal of any member who is convicted of an offence. Other amendments in the group would remove references to the criminal offence ground to reflect that change.
Collectively, the amendments would strengthen the principle that MSPs should be held to the highest possible standards of conduct. Members who break the law should not be afforded the opportunity to keep their job through costly petitions, polls or by-elections. They should be treated like the vast majority of the public, who would likely lose their job if they committed a crime. The amendments would provide the Parliament with clear and coherent mechanisms to give effect to that principle, because that is what the public expect from their MSPs who they elect to this chamber.
I move amendment 1.