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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

For clarification, you are all content that, once it has been identified that 10 per cent has been reached, the petition should just be closed. I am dreading the next question, because I know what it will open up.

Should where you sign the petition be geographically limited? If we were to think in regional area terms, why could I not travel to Dumfries and sign the petition there, other than because of the fact that the office there would have no record of my registration?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Yes. It might be a policy decision—I am happy for you to say so if it is—but would that be reasonable? Would it be practical? In order for the administration to be straightforward, should the signing of the petition be restricted to the geographical area where you are registered?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

It is more a high-level electoral voting facilitation question, rather than one in respect of the bill that is before us.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

So, the answer in relation to the bill is that there is a geographical restriction because that is the register that people are on for the petition. That is helpful.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

As you discussed, is there a danger in relation to the availability of places in which to sign, from an accessibility and support point of view? We protect our polling stations for good reason, because we know where they are and what they are. With the signing petition, an address could suddenly become unavailable and 11,000 people could turn up on Monday morning at 9 am, because that is when the place opens. Is that an issue from an administrative or practical perspective?

I am happy for you to consider that and come back with an answer. Is there a balance in relation to doing what Graham Simpson proposes and absolutely restricting the areas where petitions can be signed by telling people that that is the only place that they can sign it?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is fine.

I ask the question because of comments that I have noted both in your submission and in others about the use of postal votes. The simple challenge is that someone might return their postal vote when the petition has already been closed; however, we know what the postal vote will say, because of the question that has been asked. Is there an issue that we should be considering with regard to postal votes and closing the petition early, or could we say that the petition should stay open for the four weeks, because, at the end of it, people would know the proportion of the electorate who voted for the recall, compared with the whole? Is there value in having that information?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

In that case, would it better if some of the requirements sat in secondary legislation rather than primary legislation, so that, as more information became available and as we understood things better, it could be amended more easily?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Is there a challenge in introducing the petition and in the subsequent regional poll such that the number of electoral methods that are being used in Scotland gets to a point at which fewer people than are sitting in this room understand them all? You have set out the need for strong communication based on a system that is as simple to understand as possible. From an administrative point of view—I recognise the evidence that you have given about the cost, but let us put that to one side—is it a step too far to bring yet another electoral system into Scotland?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

I appreciate that.

Let me just push at this issue. The four-week period makes sense, and I think that the reality is that, in all but one of the examples of the UK-wide petition examples that we can look at, the threshold was reached very early on. Should a petition close at that stage? Is there any value in its running on?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

The votes of the 60 per cent of people who go the other way.