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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Elections obviously have tight rules on campaign expenditure: who does it, how it is done and how it is reported. When the minister gave evidence about the recall petition, he made the point that an individual could face an unknown campaign to remove them. Would that need to be addressed in secondary legislation? Would you expect the financing in relation to the petition to be dealt with in secondary legislation, and should it be dealt with by secondary legislation for the purposes of the recall petition?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Let me delve into that. You talked about serious offences; there might be other offences that a group of the community would perhaps despair at. For example, the provision would be triggered if someone were in prison for more than six months for contempt of court, but people might dispute the reason for the sentencing. I am not inviting you to comment on that unless you wish to. Are you content that the trigger should be the sentence of imprisonment for six months—or, indeed, for longer but for less than 12 months and one day—rather than the reason for which that sentence has come about?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Right. That is what I am driving at.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

It is the act of losing one’s liberty that occasions the provision.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Emma Roddick has a question.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

To where?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

It is, but I am exploring what “physical attendance” means. Does it mean being in the chamber with your card in the machine or at a formal, open committee meeting, even though you might not be a committee member?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

In the chamber during a plenary session.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you very much for your opening comments, particularly those about a committee member whom we hope to see return in the very near future. Now is the moment for all those people whom you have grilled to open the popcorn and pull their chair forward.

I will kick us off. You answered my first question, on what you would say is the main purpose of recall. I would like to explore that with you a bit. In much of the documentation and, indeed, the representations that you have made today, you have talked specifically about the MSP as an individual and about their behaviour or choices falling below what their electorate could reasonably expect of them. In the bill, you lay out some simple, objective tests to determine whether an MSP has fallen short. There are, however, also subjective tests, such as providing a reasonable explanation for why something has happened. Do you find that a challenge? We would potentially put into legislation something that others—possibly this committee or its future iterations, as your bill suggests—would decide. Are there challenges in relation to giving subjective tests to future committees when the bill also contains simple objective tests in relation to sentencing and things like that? What is your thinking about those two decisions?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Sorry—I do not mean to cut across you. I think that we will address the specifics of that part of the bill in other questions. I am trying to ask the higher-level question about whether you are content that your bill contains both objective, easily understood reasons for a recall but also subjective assessments on which someone else must make a decision before the recall. Is there a contradiction in that? Are you happy with that? Are you happy that those decisions would go to a future decision-making body?