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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
Our guests on our second panel are all joining us online. I welcome Jess Garland from the Electoral Reform Society, Dr Catriona Burness from the Royal National Institute of Blind People Scotland and Ethan Young from Inclusion Scotland.
Thank you for putting yourselves up today to submit evidence. In order to maximise the time that we have available to inquire about various subjects, we will move straight to questions. Please do not feel that everyone needs to answer every question. If you would like to contribute, please type the letter R in the chat function and we will know that you want to add something.
I will kick off with an open question, which I would like you all to respond to—just to contradict my previous statement. Will you give us a short statement about the barriers and challenges that are faced by people who want to vote?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
Can I push you on that point? Are you suggesting that some of the hurdles that exist at the moment are excessive and that to add to them would cause problems or are you saying that we have enough hurdles at the moment?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
Absolutely. I recognise that there is a difference between the events that happen on the day, face to face, and what is in legislation.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
Absolutely. I just have a point about proxy votes. The memorandum that we are considering is silent on proxy votes, simply because the Government is indicating that no legislative consent would be required in that respect.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
I will move on to voter ID, which everyone has raised as an issue. I see that Catriona Burness has joined us again. The witnesses have been clear about the impact that voter ID has on certain groups. Does Jess Garland have any comments on the impact on any socioeconomic groups that have not been mentioned? What are the challenges with regard to voter ID for them?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
I would like to push you on your experience and knowledge of that and to turn the question around slightly. I have two questions. First, what confidence is there in those groups that the Government, the local authority or the election officer will provide that specified ID if a person does not have a passport or a driving licence? What is the confidence level in those groups that that will happen?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
We can hear you.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
My apologies for your experience with the IT, which is not unique. Thank you for that contribution. That answer to Bob Doris’s question about the bill is very important, and it is very helpful to have it on the record.
I am conscious of the time. On behalf of the committee, I extend my deep thanks to the witnesses for attending the meeting. I know that the clerks will be in touch with them about whether there are any other items that they would like us to consider before our report is drawn together.
That ends the public part of the meeting.
10:50 Meeting continued in private until 11:22.Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
Bob, I think that Alistair Clark wants to come in.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2021
Martin Whitfield
Thank you. It is important that you have put on record that the right to vote is a human right, so it applies to all humans. Before Catriona Burness responds, I will let Bob Doris ask a follow-up question for you.