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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 July 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

And the unknown unknowns.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Absolutely.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

What is the Government’s view on the fact that, if someone walks through the door to sign the petition, everyone will know what their position is? Does the Government have any concern that there would be no anonymity in that decision, whereas there is anonymity when someone steps into a polling booth?

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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Absolutely—what if there is one sitting on top of that? That is why I ask the question of the Government.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

The expenditure on a petition might or might not be an election expense, irrespective of when it happens. If it falls within certain periods and it is such an expense, it will cause problems. I am inviting the Scottish Government to consider the issue in a bit more detail, because it potentially ties into whether a petition—if it becomes an uncontrollable event—is the right vehicle to do that first part.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thankfully, it is not the committee members who are giving evidence today.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Let me say “situation” rather than “responsibility”.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

I will leave that there.

I turn to the Scottish Government’s point of view on another piece of evidence. The situation for councillors relates to the failure to attend a specific event that tends to be held monthly, but the bill talks about a period of time. Is the Scottish Government concerned that there is a fundamental difference between the requirement of a councillor to attend full council meetings and the requirement in the bill, which is just to attend physically?

You have expressed a view about physical attendance, and we have heard views in the committee and in evidence that it is actually really easy just to come and swipe in. However, we do not have a registration rule in the Parliament. People who have voted can be identified, and I understand that there are often freedom of information requests about who was in the chamber—we can always look at the television. However, is the Government concerned that identifying attendance in the Parliament is very different to identifying whether councillors have attended a specific meeting that falls at various times, with times in between?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

I again welcome Graham Simpson, given his interest in the matter, and I will be more than happy to bring him in at the appropriate time, if he has questions.

I will kick off. Minister, you said that you had 77 responses. I will not go into the split between individual and group responses, because I do not think that the responses have been published yet, so we have only headline figures. Were you satisfied with the level of response?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Dual Mandates

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Martin Whitfield

Let me put my question differently. Are you satisfied with the range of responses? Will they allow you to take your thinking forward with confidence about the view that is out there?