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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Electoral Commission

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

I know that Ivan McKee would like to come in, but can you just clarify that the inaccurate register entries are a subset of those that are not correctly registered, rather than in addition to that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Electoral Commission

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

Are you satisfied now?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Electoral Commission

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

Subject to that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

I am grateful for the invitation to this meeting, convener.

It is still morning, cabinet secretary, so I wish you a good morning. I will pick up a couple of small points for clarification. You talked about the UNCRC as one of the issues to be considered with regard to ensuring the compliance of legislation going forward, but you could not give the same reassurance with regard to legislation that is going through at the moment. In some cases, you have already reached out to third parties for discussions; I am thinking of, for example, the Promise bill. Are you envisaging a specific date after which all legislation will have to undergo UNCRC consideration, or do you expect to have an individual discussion on every piece of legislation that is introduced?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

I am grateful for that response.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Excellent. The idea of 40 per cent, a 50-50 split or whatever is—I do not say this in a derogatory way—slightly arbitrary. We actually need to look at the problem that is in front of us, and our solution might be different for each of the issues of gender balance on committees, the gender balance of conveners and gender balance on various other committees. As long as the solutions are moving us iteratively down the road—obviously, subject to what we actually come up with—that would be welcomed as a step in the right direction for the gender audit.

I see that you agree, which is good.

You may be glad to know that I have come to the end of my slightly nerdy questions. Unless any of you would like to make a short final comment, I will close this part of the meeting. Thank you very much for coming. It has been an incredibly interesting dialogue and discussion. Should the committee have other questions, I hope that you will be open to writing to us to submit your thoughts. As always, the clerks are open to discussions in a two-way format to ensure that the committee has the evidence that it needs to make the best decisions. On behalf of the committee, I thank you for your attendance.

10:21 Meeting continued in private until 11:21.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 17th meeting in 2023 of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee?. We have received apologies from two committee members—Stephen Kerr and Annie Wells—and Evelyn Tweed will join us remotely.

I welcome back Edward Mountain in a slightly different role, as he is attending as the Scottish Conservatives’ substitute. Before I turn to the first agenda item, I invite Edward first to grant his hellos back to us and, secondly, to put on the record any declaration of registered interests.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

To pick up on what Evelyn Tweed said about the need for substantial change, there is incredible value in shifting the culture by shifting the smaller rules of the jigsaw without having to rebuild the entire jigsaw at the same time. In the iterative nature of Parliament, those forward steps, although they may seem small and insignificant in their own right, are part of a pathway to something that, on a significant number of occasions, all members and the Presiding Officers have indicated is the goal that we want to achieve.

That is very useful. You mentioned a number of examples of how we could calculate quotas, whether we call them that or something else. Is there value in having different ways of assessing the success of different elements of the proposals in the gender audit? I am acutely aware of our discussion about changes in committee membership, which are frequently driven by understandable Government change. The Government has worked extremely hard to always have a gender balance. In relation to how people view things from the outside, a gender-balanced Government is incredibly important.

Is there value in accepting that change is needed—as, I think, we do—but then having different elements of how we achieve that, depending on the question that is in front of us?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

We are joined by Karen Adam MSP. Is there anything that you would like to say, Karen? I think it only right that, having been quoted by Evelyn Tweed earlier, you should have the chance to make a rebuttal or ask further questions.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

“A Parliament for All: Report of the Parliament’s Gender Sensitive Audit”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Martin Whitfield

I suggest that there is perhaps a difference in Scotland between a constituency MSP, whereby an individual choice could be made, and a list member, whereby it is a political party vote that is extended.