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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

I am not sure that I would quote from that.

I would first express the view that you and the Scottish Government have echoed today, about it being a parliamentary bill, in essence, using Scottish Government time. That is very useful. I know about the work that is going on so that we can reach agreement where reaching agreement is the correct thing to do. In the process, we can then engage with others outside, who will have a view. Thank you for that.

I will now turn to freedom of information and to the Scottish Information Commissioner’s progress report, which is varied in its comments. Where are you with regard to the various recommendations? I do not know whether you want to talk about them holistically or individually.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

The next item is evidence from the Minister for Parliamentary Business. Good morning, minister. I welcome Steven MacGregor, Iain Hockenhull and Jill McPherson, who are joining the minister.

We will plunge straight into questions, unless you want to make any opening remarks.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

Let us see where that relationship goes. I will pass over to Ivan McKee.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

That is powerful and good to hear. FOI discussions around the world all point to proactive publication, for the very good reason that, if the information is out there, whoever is seeking an answer can, hopefully, get it without making a request.

One of the recommendations—this has been hinted at in other discussions in the chamber—is on records management. The report is, if not scathing, very critical of where you have got to on that issue. As you said, we are two and a half years down the road. Will we see an improvement on that, or have we hit a hardware problem, a process problem or an attitudinal problem with case management?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

Sorry, I did not mean to cut across you. That was very rude.

The minister’s answer referred to a software problem. One area that the commissioner picked up was in respect of recording advice from special advisers. Doing that is simply about saying, “From now on it will be recorded,” rather than dealing with a hardware problem in recording it. If that is the case, when will we see that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

—what I am saying is—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

Therefore, before the end of this year, we will see the publication of your response, in essence, to the report—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

For the purposes of clarity, I was merely echoing recommendation 3 in the report, which requires both the name of the adviser and the rationale behind the decision to be recorded.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

I was going to talk about the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 first.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Minister for Parliamentary Business

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Martin Whitfield

Section 5 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 gives the power to add bodies for the purposes of freedom of information. A report is produced. This year’s report clearly stated that there had been no new designations. However, during the time that it covered, ScotRail and the Caledonian Sleeper service were brought under the act for the purposes of freedom of information. Why did you not avail yourself of the ability under the act to announce that they were part of the system?

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