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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

Was an error made in rushing to make the decision to a political agenda? You say that you do not think that there was one, but given the United Kingdom Government’s announcement on defence contracts, was making the contract a top-line announcement at your party’s conference a political agenda?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

I disagree. I think that it would have been possible to have waited until you came back from your holidays for you to sign the contract, rather than Keith Brown signing it while you were on holiday.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

When the contract was awarded, did you know that CMAL had concerns about it being awarded to FMEL? Were you aware of how much concern it had?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

So, at that point, you were not concerned that you did not have the full builders refund guarantee.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

There still seemed to be a lot of concerns from CMAL, which felt that it had maybe been forced into it.

Given all the different concerns that were raised with you, did you discuss those with other ministers or cabinet secretaries, or with the First Minister or her advisers? Were they aware of the concerns?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

From CMAL’s submissions, it seemed very keen to go back to the procurement process because it would have preferred to proceed with a full builders refund guarantee. Why were ministers so keen to proceed with the contract at that time?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

I know that some of my colleagues have other questions about that. When did you become aware that there would not be a full builders refund guarantee?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

So you did not have any meetings with CMAL.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

Good morning, Mr Mackay. Was the decision to award the ferry contract to FMEL in any way linked to political calculations or dictated by a political timescale?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Sharon Dowey

We heard from Mr McColl that he thought that there was a future for the yard even without the contract in question and that there was a rush to make the announcement even though the negotiations were still going on. CMAL felt that that hindered it in its negotiations, as it would have been harder for the Government to pull back from that announcement after having made such a high-profile announcement that the contract was going to the yard. I will move on.