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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

Are we confident that the report will come out in the summer?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

Okay.

Paragraph 49 on page 17 states:

“As in our last audit, representative bodies of private and third sector ELC providers … report that their members have challenges in recruiting and retaining staff.”

Can you set out in a wee bit more detail why staff stability is higher in council settings than in the private and third sector? Is there any more detail on what the Scottish Government can do to improve stability across the sectors?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

I move on to funding for ELC. You mentioned that there is no comprehensive picture of how much councils have spent specifically on the expansion at national level. You mentioned the various complexities that can make it difficult for the Government to establish the overall amount that has been spent on implementing the expansion from 600 hours to 1,140 hours. Does that mean that we might never know the cost of implementing the policy?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

Thank you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

My question is on the views of children, which you touched on earlier. Paragraph 103, on page 32, refers to a recommendation made in the 2020 Audit Scotland follow-up report

“that the Scottish Government considers how to include children’s views in the evaluation of the policy.”

The report explains:

“The Scottish Government is working with stakeholders on whether and how to do this in a meaningful way, given other research priorities and capacity to undertake the work, but has yet to finalise plans.”

To what extent is the Scottish Government committed to seeking the views of children as part of its evaluation work?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

It is complicated, then.

Paragraph 64 of the report states that, in 2023-24, the Scottish Government allocated £9.1 million less to councils for funded ELC than in 2022-23 and that COSLA is concerned that that reduction in funding may affect service delivery in the future. To what extent do you share COSLA’s concerns?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. Your report highlights significant recruitment and retention challenges for the ELC sector. We note that the Scottish Government is working with stakeholders to draft a strategic framework for the ELC and school-age childcare workforce and an associated action plan to address the challenge, which are due to be published in summer 2023. To what extent will the development of that framework and action plan address the challenges that the ELC sector is facing? Is it on track to be published this summer?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

Do you know whether any modelling has been undertaken to establish what the backlog is likely to be if no funding is put in place to support the work to address the backlog?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

Is there enough funding? Last year, it was reported that the courts service was told that justice is no longer a priority for Government ahead of the budget. Has the court service been told something similar for subsequent years? Does the current settlement represent the service being a priority?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. The report states that the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service was well placed to lead the early modelling work that informed decision making on tackling the criminal courts backlog, as it had access to large amounts of data and the appropriate skills and expertise in-house. Will you tell us more about the in-house skills and expertise and how they were used?