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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. I have questions about resources. Some witnesses, including those representing COSLA and Police Scotland, raised concerns about a lack of resources to support the effective implementation of the proposals. What discussions have you had about those concerns?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

There were general concerns about the bill’s financial implications. In its submission, Police Scotland said a lot about its concerns about the financial memorandum. It also said that it wanted a lot more communication with the Scottish Government. COSLA also mentioned the issue. There was a lot of concern about the financial memorandum.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

Scottish Women’s Aid raised concern about the financial memorandum’s near silence on costs, especially those that are associated with part 2. Dr Marsha Scott expressed concern about the

“failure to implement the Children (Scotland) Act 2020 and the Domestic Abuse (Protection) (Scotland) Act 2021”

due to money not being

“set aside in the process of passing those acts.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 5 February 2025; c 5.]

I am looking for reassurance that enough money will be set aside for this bill.

Going back to Liam Kerr’s earlier point, there will be a six-month period between the Parliament passing the bill and the commencement of the provisions. We do not want to be in a situation where not enough money has been set aside in the first place so the legislation just sits on a shelf and is not implemented because the finances are not there.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

Dr Scott, do you have any comments on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

Fiona Drouet, in your submission, you mention the university

“failing to recognise so many warning signs, missing opportunities to intervene”.

Would the reviews that are currently available cover that? If not, would the reviews that are included in the bill cover that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

The Social Work Scotland submission mentions that a key organisation—Child Protection Committees Scotland—has not been engaged with. Are you aware of any other key groups that have not been engaged with?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

It is good to hear that you all support the bill. I do not think that you are putting up barriers; it is perhaps the practicalities of implementing the bill that everybody is concerned about.

In your written submissions and in your opening statements today, everybody mentioned a lack of engagement. Police Scotland said in its submission last week that there was a lack of engagement and that it wanted more communication. I think that it was Police Scotland that said that part 2 had been “‘tacked’ onto the end” of the bill.

My quick question on engagement is this: do you have a note of how many meetings and how much correspondence you have had with the Scottish Government on part 2 of the bill? Is that information available?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

Do we just need to review and refine what we have already, rather than implement the bill? Do we need to legislate or to refine what we already have? I have a concern that everybody is spending all their time doing reviews, but nobody is implementing the actions from that work so we do not get the outcome that we need.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

No current review process would have covered that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Sharon Dowey

Some of the written evidence has raised concerns about adding a new system of reviews to an already complex review landscape. Do you share those concerns? If so, what could we do to alleviate potential problems?