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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Can you come back to us with the actual dates?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Finally, at what stage in the procurement process did the Scottish Government, Transport Scotland and Scottish ministers first become aware that FMEL was unable to offer a full builders refund guarantee?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

At what point did ministers become aware that the BRG was not in place?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

We just want to know when everybody actually knew this. Last week, I was sitting here saying that all this might have been rushed, but obviously there is a question about whether they were trying to rush it because an announcement was going to be made at the yard at the end of August when CMAL was still in negotiations. I just want to try to clarify the point at which each—

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Okay. Thank you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

In your opening statement, you said that you accepted all the recommendations in the Audit Scotland report. Can I double check that that is the case? Are there any recommendations in that report that you have any reservations about?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. Paragraphs 104 to 109 of the report, starting on page 45, outline how the Scottish Government has fundamentally changed the arrangements to complete the vessels since the shipyard was brought into public ownership in December 2019. That includes the appointment of Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd as its technical consultant.

During the Public Audit Committee’s evidence session with the Auditor General for Scotland on 28 April 2022, he commented on the new arrangements, stating:

“There is no denying that the arrangements are unusual. That paragraph also notes that Transport Scotland no longer has a role in the delivery of the ships. That is quite distinct from where we were.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 28 April 2022; c 37.]

Under the new arrangements to complete the vessels, CMAL has been appointed as the Scottish Government’s technical consultant and Transport Scotland no longer has a role in the delivery of the ships. Why were those decisions taken? What work was undertaken to assess the risks associated with the change in roles?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Okay. You do not think that there is any conflict of interest in CMAL’s revised role.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Census

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Age Scotland chief executive Brian Sloan said that the Scottish Government should “shine a light” on elderly people who risk missing the census deadline. Within three days, elderly pensioners will face criminal records and hefty fines if they are unaware of the census or are unable to complete the form.

What work is the Scottish Government doing specifically to identify older people who might miss the deadline, and will the 12 June date be the final one, even if it means handing out fines and criminal records to vulnerable pensioners?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 26 May 2022

Sharon Dowey

I have a wee question about the Erik Østergaard email that was sent on 26 September. He made it quite clear that the contract should not have gone ahead. In the evidence that you have given today, you have referred to CMAL as the expert in shipbuilding. Why would its recommendations have been ignored?