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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Okay. In a previous—

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

There was the cheat sheet.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Okay, but you would concede that Alex Salmond encouraged Jim McColl to buy the yard.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

When it all started to go badly wrong at the yard, Mr McColl reached out to you to request a meeting. You met on 31 May. He said that he raised with you a “red flag”. Can you tell the committee what that red flag was? Who else was at that meeting? He said that at least one official was present at it. Who was that official and what was discussed?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Can I just cut in there? That meeting was a pretty big deal, and there was no official—no civil servant—present. There was a special adviser. How can it be an official meeting if there was no civil servant present?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Well, he was coming to complain about a major public procurement that was going on—

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

But there was a clear point at which nationalisation became your preferred option.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

Obviously, you are aware that we visited the yard this week, and the management made clear that, as a result of the issues surrounding the yard, the order book is not as healthy as it could be, and that a fresh injection of working capital will be needed to avoid redundancies. That means more taxpayers’ money. How can it be that painters, welders and cleaners might lose their jobs as a result of the fiasco, but you keep yours?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

On the question of transparency and the Government’s engagement, you said that the 8 October submission very clearly set out the issues highlighted by CMAL. When that was released, some fundamental elements of the email thread attached to that, including those about the likelihood of the threat of a legal challenge to that decision, had been redacted. Is that the kind of transparency that your Government believes in?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Craig Hoy

He was on your Council of Economic Advisers.