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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Will that be reported in the SBR? Do you have any projections on how you are doing against that target of £60 million?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

On a wider point about public sector pay, the size of the public sector in Scotland is another thing that contributes to the long-term issues that you face. Do the consequentials meet the increased salaries that Scottish public sector workers earn and the fact that there is a higher percentage per capita of public sector workers in Scotland, or do you have to look to other budgets to address the issue?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Fine. In relation to public pay policy, can you say how much of that £1.433 billion will go into what I would call public service delivery and how much will go into public sector pay and pensions? The ABR is littered with references to increased pension contributions and public sector pay. I know that public sector workers contribute to public sector delivery but, just for clarity, can you produce a breakdown of where that £1.433 billion is going between public services and public sector pay and pensions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Looking at the ABR announcement, I see that you identified £65 million of savings in measures that would not proceed, additional emergency measures that would save £188.4 million and up to a further £60 million of savings that are anticipated to be generated through the emergency spending controls. Will you still proceed with the additional £60 million that presumably would have come into the SBR?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Could there be a structural shortfall this year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Police officers.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Can you benchmark in relation to that and look forward to future years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

But in October, you were saying that it was around £900 million to £1 billion, and now it is £1.433 billion, which is £400 million more, but in effect, you are saying that there is no—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

For the record, it is therefore accurate to say that you cannot really reconcile that statement with the ABR that was laid before the Parliament on 3 October. The two are inconsistent, are they not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Well, in the sense that you were saying that the figure was “in line with” the

“internal planning assumption and ... factored into the spending plans,”

but it is, materially, £400 million more than you were expecting.