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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

Therefore we do not need SPICe to produce that data, because you say that you can produce it.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

I declare that I am a fellow of the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development. I am gobsmacked by what I have heard. The issue is crying out for a work study to be done, to look at efficiency. It makes you wonder why we are not all over this. A work study should have been done, and one needs to be done with urgency. As Professor Din said, the entire pathway needs to be examined, so I am delighted that, as a committee, we are addressing the matter and treating it as important.

I have two questions on the theme of the barriers to meeting cancer waiting times. In its “NHS in Scotland 2023” report, Audit Scotland said:

“Meeting waiting times standards for cancer remains a priority, but performance against the 62-day standard is poor”.

Peter Hastie, you said:

“something is going badly wrong”.

What do you think are the main barriers to putting the wheels back on the bus, or—given that this has been an issue for a while—to putting them on the bus? We have talked about the fact that the surgeons just want to get in there and do their surgery. What are the other main barriers to meeting the waiting time standards?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

If the kit is not working, we need to ask why that is. That needs to be looked at.

With regard to workforce planning, each individual health board seems to do its own workforce planning, but we do not have a holistic Scotland-wide workforce plan. The danger of that is that we rob Peter to pay Paul. People might flock to where there are specialists in, say, cancer treatment, which creates an issue. Would you say that having a holistic workforce plan is a massive priority?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

So we need to have a workforce plan.

I would like to go to Professor Din, who was nodding. We talked about the fact that surgeons are in their happy place when they are doing surgery. What other barriers are there?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

Before I go on to my second question, I note that some areas or regions would say that they do implement self-directed support, while some scarcely implement it. Do you have any views on that, Dr Kellock?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

My second question is whether panel members think that amendments to the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill or the Public Bodies (Joint Working) (Scotland) Act 2014 are required to ensure the successful implementation of self-directed support. Has the SDS collaboration discussed that? Who would like to go first on that question?

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

I want to come back to what Peter Hastie said about it being good to have the data from previous quarters. That is such a basic point. Why is the centre for sustainable delivery not providing that data? Why would you need to come to us and ask SPICe to do that research? To me, everything is about the data. Perhaps Katie Cuthbertson could answer Peter’s question about why the data is not there.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

So you do not have the performance data to look at sustainable development. I am just wondering how you can do sustainable development if you do not have basic data.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

I was asking about Peter Hastie’s question about looking back at the quarters when the kit broke down.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Health Service Waiting Times

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

Thank you.