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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

The issue that you talk about with psychiatrists is huge. There is no workforce plan and the issue has not shifted since I came into this job nearly four years ago.

Suzi Martin from the National Autistic Society Scotland shared with the committee last week that Scotland

“is already falling behind England, where … data on waiting times”

for autism and learning disability assessment

“is collected, disaggregated and published.”—[Official Report, Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, 26 November 2024; c 5.]

How can the Scottish Government manage what it is not measuring in relation to assessments?

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

It would be good if you could look at the issue of assessments, because that is a huge area.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

As you know, people are falling between the cracks. I will leave that with you.

You mentioned CAMHS. In the NHS Tayside area in my region, the current waiting time for children who have been referred to its neurodevelopmental services is 154 weeks. That is almost three years. We know that children with autism and additional support needs are five times more likely to be excluded from school, but those children feel that they are being left in limbo through no fault of their own. What support is available to those children if they cannot access diagnosis and treatment?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Tess White

But can that not just happen without those things? It is so obvious that the culture needs to change. Why does it need a commissioner to actually get things done?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Tess White

Good—I will go to Susan first. Thank you, convener.

MSPs are currently marking the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence campaign. I understand that 90 per cent of women with learning disabilities have been subjected to sexual abuse, with 68 per cent experiencing sexual abuse before turning 18. Those are horrifying statistics. What changes need to be made to protect women with learning disabilities from sexual abuse?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Tess White

Thank you, Simon. A bill could take years, but given how horrific the statistics that I mentioned are, we should be taking action now, instead of waiting years for a bill. Is a bill the right vehicle here? Should we not be doing things now?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Tess White

I have a quick supplementary question for Jamie Cooke, if I may. Integration joint boards are on their knees; councils are having to make swingeing cuts to budgets; self-directed support is, as we know, plagued with problems; and social care is in limbo because of the deeply flawed NCS bill, which has now been shelved. Given what would have been the wide-ranging nature and importance of the bill, do you believe that the infrastructure is in place to deliver on what the LDAN bill might have sought to achieve? There is an aspiration but, bearing in mind that other basics have just not been put in place—I have talked about IJBs and social care—is the infrastructure in place?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Tess White

I will put this question first to Jenny Miller, then to Simon Webster and Susan Burt. MSPs are currently marking—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Tess White

Thank you.

Would the LDAN bill be the right vehicle for tackling the issue? I will put that to Simon, and then to Jenny.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Tess White

The committee recently considered the Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill and heard views about the proposals for a learning disabilities, autism and neurodivergence commissioner. The Scottish Parliament agreed to a moratorium on new commissioners until a review is completed, by June 2025. What are your views on the need for a learning disabilities, autism and neurodivergence commissioner?