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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

My earlier set of questions explored you listening and hearing when incorporating policies. My next question is about rights-based budgeting but, before I ask that, I want to go back to something that you said in relation to a question from my colleague Pam Gosal.

You talked about gender quotas and you mentioned Elect Her and Engender. You are conflating sex and gender. The public sector equality duty has nine protected characteristics, one of which is sex and one of which is gender reassignment. When you review policies, it is important to differentiate between sex and gender. From this session and you saying that you are hearing what people are saying, I hope that you are mindful that when you say gender, do you mean gender or do you mean sex?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

Minister, I accept that funding help desks and suicide prevention is very important. However, if you find out that the groups that you are funding are giving misinformation through guidance, will you commit to stopping their funding if you have the evidence in front of you?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

I just want to check my understanding. We are talking about hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money. You are saying that if people have evidence that guidance is incorrect and against the law, they need to go to the EHRC to complain, not to the Scottish Government. You will then wait for guidance or direction from the EHRC, rather than taking a view on the funding yourself. The filter is with the EHRC and it is not with you.

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

They can write to you and you will review—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

My question is on the rights of women, disabled people, the LGB community, the TI+ community and racialised minorities. You said at the start of the meeting that the Scottish Government is aiming to be the human rights guarantor for all people in Scotland. How will you prioritise the rights of those particular groups in upcoming policy reviews? I would specifically like to mention the fairer Scotland duty and the social security charter in that regard.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

I will—thank you.

So, you are waiting for guidance from the EHRC before the Scottish Government takes a view on switching the taps off for any funding.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

So, the Scottish Government is not funding lobby groups to give guidance on their interpretation of the law.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

Will you give us an idea of the timescale for that? Is it in the next couple of months?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

How will you make sure that all the right organisations are involved in reviewing that, particularly in the light of the Supreme Court judgment?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Tess White

Do you have any idea on the timing of that?