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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

What about the staff? You talked about having engaged with staff unions. Going forward, what do you expect that engagement to look like?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

Of course.

You have talked about learning lessons and changing what you do and how you do it in the light of things that have happened in the past—good or bad. However, I am still not hearing from you a clear commitment to anything more than consultation; I am not hearing a commitment to genuine engagement and participation. By that, I mean getting staff and students involved in presenting ideas and suggestions that are not made only in response to a plan that the Scottish Government, the trade unions and most of us sitting around the committee table find unacceptable. Frankly, anybody who has seen the plan finds it unacceptable. I am not hearing from you any more than, “This is the plan. We can tweak it around the edges, but that’s it.”

What have you have learned from engaging and communicating on the previous restructuring, and in the past four months, that will change from now?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

Were any staff members on the task force?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

Which you lead.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

I will pick up on the idea of risk assessments. I am actually quite staggered that student numbers were assessed as green until they were red. Do you need to reassess how you calculate and identify risk appetite?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

You are not proceeding.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

Okay. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

What equality impact assessment was done on the recruitment freeze?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

But it was not done prior to any decision to freeze recruitment.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Maggie Chapman

We know that the job cuts that have been outlined, particularly in professional services, will disproportionately affect women. A lot of people, both in the university community and further afield, are concerned that the recovery plan represents systemic discrimination, given the failure to take into account equalities impact assessments and to identify the impact on people with protected characteristics. Do you agree with that assessment that there is systemic discrimination?