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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 27 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
That is good to hear. Maybe I have a new member already.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 27 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
I absolutely agree, and I am delighted to have it on board. As I have said, the group’s key intention is to get more people involved in rugby. The School of Hard Knocks is probably using rugby as a medium to engage more with different people who might not think about rugby in that way and to improve their lives and outcomes.
I also mentioned clan rugby, which I was not aware of before I became a member of Parliament. It tries to engage with people with disabilities—whether that is a physical disability or a learning disability—in an effort to get them involved in clubs and mixing with people without disabilities. There is a camaraderie, and its work has been key in that respect.
If the cross-party group can engage a lot more with the School of Hard Knocks and engage on the clan rugby side to get everyone working together in order to improve outcomes, that would be good.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 27 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
Thank you, convener. I thank colleagues for their time today.
As a new member of Parliament, I confess that I was surprised to discover that the Parliament did not have a cross-party group that focused on rugby. Scotland has a long history with the game, although some years are better than others. I always like to point out that we are still the holders of the five nations championship, which was last held back in 1999, and I am sure that we always will be. It is important that rugby’s contribution to our cultural history and our future development be recognised through a cross-party group in the Parliament.
Rugby is changing. The first ever international rugby match was played on 27 March 1871 at Raeburn Place in Edinburgh. In front of 4,000 people, Scotland beat England that day—amazingly, the score was 1-0, which shows how much the game has changed. I hope that that result can be replicated in a couple of weeks.
The game has changed completely since then. It is now a game for everyone. We have seen the incredible emergence of women’s rugby and clan rugby. Safety standards have improved, and there is now professionalism in the game, but it is still important that grass-roots games are protected and can evolve. The proposal invites the Parliament to consider that development and how we can go further—how we can make the game more inclusive and ensure that it is as safe as possible in the years to come.
I am pleased to have two key partners on board with the group: the Scottish Rugby Union, which is providing secretariat support to the group, and the School of Hard Knocks, which is a fantastic charity that uses rugby to support young people in Scotland.
Again, I thank the committee for its time. I am happy to answer any questions.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 27 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
Yes. We spoke about that, as well. It is not all about the international game; it is also about the grass roots. We are talking to local clubs as well, to get them involved.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
Inward secondees and agency workers are not covered by the procedure. I understand that there are reasons for that—they are not employed by the Scottish Government—but are there legal reasons why they cannot be covered by the procedure? Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, whether it is towards an employee or an agency worker. Is there almost a loophole being created by excluding such workers?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
My next question ties into that. At the end of stage 1, if a complaint is not going to be proceeded with, will the person against whom the complaint has been made ever find out that a complaint has been made?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
I want to talk a little more about the timings of complaints. It is clear from the procedure that, if a complaint is made within six months of an incident, it will be investigated. I want to ask about cases where complaints are made after that six-month period. From reading the procedure, it is not clear to me who decides whether the issue should be looked at. If it is decided that an incident will not be investigated because it has been too long since it occurred, will the appeal process kick in at that point, so that the complainer can take the issue further if they wish to do so?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
Thank you.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
If the six-month period has passed, who makes the decision on whether the matter will be investigated?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
Douglas Lumsden
But who makes that decision?