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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Douglas Lumsden

That is good to know.

My last question is about the national care service. You have said that we are in really difficult financial times just now, so is that an area that you are you perhaps looking at again? Is it the right time to introduce that extra layer? The committee hears a lot of evidence from people who say that it could add an extra layer of bureaucracy and that perhaps now is not the right time to do it. Is it something that you would consider delaying or something that you definitely want to push ahead with?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I guess that it is a case of little snippets here and there, as opposed to a big-bang approach of total change to the landscape, so to speak.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Deputy First Minister, I want to come back to investment zones. It sounds like you are not fundamentally against them but you need to see a lot more detail and description from the UK Government. Is that a fair analysis?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Douglas Lumsden

That is good to hear. There are a lot of similarities between investment zones and freeports, I imagine. Has the Scottish Government done much work on freeports and their costs, and on whether the model might lead to displacement or new growth?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Absolutely, but there could also be the argument that perhaps some of the benefits would be devolved benefits that would impact on your budget.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

On digital transformation in local government, I imagine that there must be a patchwork, in that some local authorities have transformed quite a lot already. Therefore, some of the savings that the Government thinks are there might not be. Is that right?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

You mentioned divergence in benefits, but we are seeing another huge divergence in growth and tax income. Do you feel that the Scottish Government is doing enough to understand the reasons for the divergence from the rest of UK, and are there plans in place that you can see to tackle it? Does anybody want to have a go at answering that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Are they doing that to provide additionality or to keep the lights on and provide the statutory services that councils have to provide?

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