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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

We have spoken about digital strategies. They save money in the long term, because putting everything online reduces the number of staff dealing with a manual process. For each of your local authorities, have you estimated the impact that your digital strategy will have on reducing your workforce head count?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I want to go back to something that Mr Emmott said at the start about back-office services, which really got my interest. Maybe there is more scope for back-office services to be shared across all 32 local authorities. Can Robert Emmott give a bit more of an idea of what he thinks is possible around that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

You might have some flexibilities coming down the line. I am thinking about the workplace parking levy and the tourist tax. Do you see those as being ways to plug your budget? I always thought that they were intended to raise additional funds, but have things changed to just being about keeping the lights on?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Mandated, then?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

What costs will be saved from your digital strategy if they are not people costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

What would you like to see? Would you like to see the exact sum that you will get for the next three years, or would you like things to be tied to the inflation rate? Last year, you probably got more than you expected to get two years ago, but that has been eaten away by the pay deals and everything else. I am trying to work out what certainty you would like to see.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 20 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. That question might be for Sarah Watters as well. Will the review give us an idea of how funding should work between different organisations, or is it not going down to that sort of level?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 20 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

This is my final question. How could data sharing make an impact and remove costs from the overall public purse?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 20 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I completely agree. We are talking about reform today, which is ideally to save costs, and a key element of that is early intervention and prevention. It seems to me that local government is at the heart of early intervention and prevention, but the problem that local government has is that, while you are saving money for the people, you do not actually get it back. For example, sports facilities will help to save money in the health budget later; libraries, economic development and education will help to tackle poverty; and working with communities will reduce the justice bill. If we are looking for reform, how does that money flow back into local government? That will help to reduce the overall Scottish budget. Even though it is not the local government budget, it is going to help.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 20 June 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Is it a case of some of the health budget or justice budget coming to local government because you are spending it on early prevention?