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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I will limit it. We heard about pipelines earlier. How easy is it to repurpose pipelines from natural gas to hydrogen? We have had some conflicting views about that over the past couple of weeks. Does anyone have a view on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

It might not be an easy thing just to switch from natural gas to hydrogen on, let us say, the main pipeline between—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Why would Grangemouth not be price competitive? What are the reasons behind that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Are the pressures the same, or is greater pressure needed for hydrogen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

And would hydrogen be the same?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Everything that we have spoken about today seems achievable, but the problem is how we make the economics of some of these things stack up. For example, SAF has been mentioned. How will the cost of SAF compare with what we pay just now? I cannot remember whether it was Jan Rosenow or Mark Symes who spoke about SAF. Maybe we can go to Mark first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Which is basically a subsidy, really?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

This is where I get confused. If I was a wind farm operator, for example, I would get a CFD at £155 per megawatt hour, but the wholesale price is low, so—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. Does anybody else want to come in on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Can that be done with the pipelines as they stand, or does it involve a pipe-in-pipe system?