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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

That is good to hear.

I will move on to record keeping. We faced issues to do with vessels 801 and 802—it was difficult to find out who had approved the spend on them. Permanent secretary, will you explain what has changed in that regard? Can we as a committee feel comfortable that proper processes are in place so that that does not happen again?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I do not know whether it is a fear of funding being removed or a fear that that disagreement will be taken into consideration if they apply for extra funding.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

First, I have a quick question on the underspend. Obviously, it is down as being £2 billion but, as Ross Greer pointed out, that is not the figure, because it includes student loans that you cannot really take out. How much money—if any—was handed back to the UK Government at the end of the year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

No. I will change the subject.

We have heard that three harassment reviews took place in session 5. The First Minister asked whether one of those could be looked at again. What about the other two? Was it just that one in particular? Whom did he ask?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I am trying to work out whether a process was missing or was not followed, or whether there was a culture—that has been mentioned a good few times during this meeting—in the organisation of not giving two hoots about the process that was meant to have been followed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Is the process already in place for that scrutiny to happen, or will it be put in place?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I want to move on to lines of communication between ministers and civil servants. Ms Fraser, are there clear instructions on how a minister and civil servants should be communicating?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

No, I just wanted to make sure that the Government is focused on prevention, because I do not see it, to be honest.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. When the First Minister said that he was happy to check that he could legally reveal findings of a previous investigation, was he referring to only one of those investigations or all three? Whom did he ask?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I understand that, when an official inquiry takes place, an external body publishes the lessons, but where are the lessons about the census, for example? Where can I go to see the lessons that we have learned and the actions that we have put in place to try to ensure that the same thing does not happen again?