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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

If you go to a cafe and buy a round of drinks, you will not be able to get the money back from that hospitality place any more.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. We will stay with local communities. When the committee was looking to take evidence on the bill, we wrote to some community groups. Several of the responses to our call for views argued that recent consultations on electricity-related developments were simply box-ticking exercises and that the views of many respondents are routinely ignored.

The submission by Scotland Against Spin said:

“No opposition to the proposed changes will be forthcoming from Holyrood, whatever the responses to this latest consultation. In those circumstances, we are not going to waste our time making the same arguments that have already been ignored once and which will no doubt be ignored again.”

What is your response to that? Is it not a sign that we are not taking people with us?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Planning and Infrastructure Bill

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Cabinet secretary, if it is such a great thing for communities, how come all the community groups that we wrote to about it are saying, “We will not take part because we are not being listened to”? It is not developers that are not listening to them; it is the Scottish Government. That is why they have real concerns. You may want to go down a path of earlier engagement and everything else, but this is what the community groups are telling us. Why are you not addressing that point? Why do they feel ignored at every opportunity by the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Cabinet secretary, I want to look at the regulations for return points, the proposals for which are a bit different from what was proposed before. The regulations say that a groceries retailer can apply for an exemption from operating a return point if there is an alternative return point within reasonable proximity. Who decides whether a retailer would be allowed an exemption or not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Would there be any appeal against that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

But there would still be an appeal process—it just needs to be ironed out. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

But the matter will still go to the scheme administrator.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

From what I have read, hospitality is now out of scope for returns. What if I, for example, go to the pub with my pals on a Friday night, and they all have a pint of lager and I have a can of Diet Coke? Am I expected to keep my can? If it is poured for me, what happens to that can at that point?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

That is perfect. Would the same apply to, say, Murrayfield, which was campaigning to be a closed-loop premise?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. Thank you.