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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

So, at the end of May, the Scottish Government would have known that there was an issue on the escape plan and the 1261. I am trying to work out why this committee was not aware of it until much later, and it seems that the cabinet secretary was not aware of it until much later as well. It would have been discussed at those meetings. This is maybe a question for us, convener—we have to try to work out why that was not fed back to the cabinet secretary if it was discussed at the meetings at the end of May that we have heard about.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

No, of course, but it is useful for us to know that Scottish Government officials were aware in May. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Yes, about the 1261 application that was rejected back in November 2022. When was CMAL notified of that? When was Transport Scotland notified that that 1261 application had been rejected?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

We have heard in the past that weekly meetings take place between Ferguson and Scottish Government officials. Would it have been discussed at those meetings?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Would the 1261 process have been discussed during those weekly meetings?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

We asked the cabinet secretary when he became aware of issues with the MCA and he said that it was on 28 June, when he received a submission that

“set out the requirement for FMPG to install additional escapes in the upper deck areas.”

What I cannot understand is that, two days later, we had an update from you that had only a fleeting mention of the MCA and no mention of additional stairways having to be installed. Why was the committee not told at that opportunity that additional staircases had to be installed? The cabinet secretary knew two days before.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I will stick to the budget lines. There has been a decline in the year-on-year funding over the past eight years until this year’s budget, when there was then an increase in funding from the Scottish Government. What impact has that had on your organisations and the work that you are trying to do?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

That seems strange to me. You spoke about policy development, the Government trying to hit net zero targets and an increase in demand, but at the same time your core funding is being reduced, which does not quite make sense to me.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Can you make up that shortfall from licensing, for example, or chargeable things?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Over the summer, I talked to wind farm developers and heard that there may be changes to the planning process to try to speed it up. One complaint that I hear is that, probably because of a lack of resource, it takes quite a while for organisations to give approval or make comments on applications. Is that problem due to a lack of resource, and could it be changed by changing the way in which the licensing or the fees work?