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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 January 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

What if that was £90 billion?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

The Scottish Government makes those demands publicly, and they are clearly political demands. The permanent secretary of the Scottish Government wrote to me saying:

“In making representations at UK fiscal events it is not for the Scottish Government to undertake costing of UK Government reserved policies, nor to identify or quantify alternative revenue-raising options.”

Apparently, it is not the job of the head of the Government civil service to make those demands. It is not on you to cost them. I get that you are responsible for costing UK Government policies rather than commenting on the politics of what is happening here, but there is a missing space when one constituent part of the UK is making unfunded demands of the Government and no one is actually costing that out. Are the politics of that not a problem for the operation of the fiscal framework?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

Okay. You will be glad to hear that I am moving on to a different area—I am sure that colleagues will be glad, too.

There are issues with productivity and it is fair to say that the picture that you paint is quite a gloomy one, and not only because of the downgrade that you have made. The picture is of significant exogenous factors impacting the global environment and it seems to me that you can see little prospect of an uptick in productivity. Is that a fair assessment of what you have set out?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

National Performing Companies (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

I would like to explore the issue of the ecosystem, which has been touched on in different ways. For the national companies, we are talking about the national funding in the budget—the direct funding—but that has a relationship, as some of you have touched on, with local government funding and the sustainability of other parts of the ecosystem.

John Mason kindly referenced “The Glass Menagerie” that was put on by Dundee Rep theatre, but the front page of The Courier in Dundee this morning talks about a threat to the Rep’s funding from Dundee City Council. How fragile is the ecosystem, given the other pressures on local government that are coming through? I will come to Liam Sinclair first on that example.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

Are those kinds of demands viable or reasonable, then?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

The challenge is that, since the current UK Government was elected in 2024, the Scottish Government has demanded an additional £95 billion of expenditure and has opposed £45 billion-worth of revenue raisers, which is a fiscal shift of £140 billion in Scottish Government demands on the UK Exchequer. What it is asking for is unfunded. What would be the consequences for the UK economy of a fiscal expansion of £140 billion?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

I agree that that is ridiculous, and it is at Argentina levels, but the Scottish Government is making those demands, so what would the consequences be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

I am trying to explore the policy space, as you have set out, and the Scottish Government has made a proposition. You are talking about fiscal headroom and what the impact of that would be, so the OBR must have a view of what might happen and what the impact would be if there were to be a sudden expansion in the Government funding of public services without any commensurate increase in taxation. That is a reasonable question.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

You are leaning quite heavily on technological waves rather than a total productivity measurement. The Scottish Fiscal Commission has been talking more about the latter rather than just waiting for technology moments to arrive. It sounds as though you are saying that, at the policy level, we are just hostages to fortune. The other issues that you identify include the ageing population, which is more acute in Scotland. I am trying to explore what we, as a set of institutions in Scotland, might do to change our productivity pathway, but the message that I am getting from your report is that, rather than making a policy level adjustment, we will just have to wait and see if a major technology comes along and changes our direction.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

National Performing Companies (Economic Impact)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

That must be critical to talent as well. Steven Roth, the Scottish Dance Theatre is also based at Dundee Rep. When it comes to making sure that you have a group of people working in the performing arts, including in dance, who can cycle through different productions in different ways, have you seen a local vulnerability?