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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

Under the next agenda item, we will continue our inquiry into effective Scottish Government decision making. We are joined remotely by Sophie Howe, sustainability futures and wellbeing adviser and former Future Generations Commissioner for Wales; Professor Steve Martin, director of the Wales Centre for Public Policy at Cardiff University; and Professor Matthew Flinders, University of Sheffield. I welcome you all to the meeting, and thank you for giving us your time.

I intend to allow up to 90 minutes for this session. If any of the witnesses wants to come in on a question, I would be grateful if they could post in the chat function so that I know to bring them in. I also ask my committee colleagues to name the first witness to whom they are putting their question.

Liz Smith will kick off the questions.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

Two of the witnesses are in Wales. I will bring in Steve Martin.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

A Conservative minister was quoted in 2020 as saying that Whitehall had been “infantilised” by the use of consultancy companies. Reflecting on Professor Flinders’s point about where they are positioned in the policy-making chain, I thought that that was a highly critical comment.

I will bring in Professor Martin, as he is on the screen.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

Agenda item 3 is an evidence session on the financial memorandum to the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the meeting Natalie Don MSP, Minister for Children, Young People and Keeping the Promise, and her Scottish Government officials: Brendan Rooney, bill manager; Tom McNamara, head of youth justice and children’s hearings; and Helen Duncan from the children and families analysis branch.

I thank you all for coming and welcome you to the meeting. I invite Natalie Don to make a brief opening statement.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

When might Parliament see a revised financial memorandum?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

So we will have a revised memorandum prior to the completion of stage 1.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

So the secure accommodation does not have the funding in place at the moment.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

Holidays have to be paid for as well.

11:15  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

Minister, why do you want to reduce the number of cross-border placements?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Michael Marra

What do you think will happen to those young people in England?