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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

You all pointed out earlier that the three of you were demand-led on the basis of issues being referred to you. That is not the case with other commissioners, or with some of those that have been proposed. They are more self-directed. Is that not the case?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

Lorna Johnston, could your work be done by the Parliament?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

That is really useful. As I noted to the previous panel, the Law Society of Scotland said:

“Whilst it can be argued that Commissioners in Scotland are ... an offshoot of, and for, the Parliament their role may create questions about accountability and the extent to which the appointment and scrutiny of Commissioners is democratic.”

What Jan Savage has described—a commissioner who is appointed by the Parliament taking enforcement action and deciding what should happen with public services—does not sound very democratic. If we were to give you those powers, at what point would the public ask a question about accountability in that regard?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

Does having one commissioner and not another risk a hierarchy of rights?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

That is really clear.

I will ask quite a stark question. Why should we have a children’s commissioner and not an older people’s commissioner?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

Do you have any comments, Ian Bruce?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

Would the three people who have answered already say that there is a distinction between your roles and the roles of the commissioners we will see on the next panel and who are being proposed? Liz Smith describes them as advocacy commissioners. Would you draw a distinction between your technical work versus that of some of those other commissioners?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

You would be able to evidence, perhaps, that those four different recommendations have not been taken up by Police Scotland.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

Do you see a point at which the Parliament, or even you, might observe the field and say, “My work here is done”?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Michael Marra

I will pose a final question to each of you. Logically, could your work be done by the Parliament? Could your work, Dr Plastow, be done by the Parliament?